The meaning of and difference between the words ‘relationship’ and ‘arrangement’ is an ongoing conversation in the sugar daddy dating world. Finding out what a potential sugar daddy or sugar baby desires on an emotional and physical level is important, yet not always easy…
“Any suggestions on how to better clarify that I am NOT wanting a real relationship? I thought my profile was pretty substantive and detailed enough about wanting to have fun, long distance, no drama.” - UncommonSB
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
~Sugar-Profile Heading Potpourri~
Reported Sweet:
“Welcome Home”
“Enjoying life, care to join me?”
“GENUINE”
“Dreams can come true”
“Meeting of the Minds before the Loins”
Reported Not-So-Sweet:
“Rich Doc seeks Groups of Kinky Girls…”
“Looking for hot girl for lunch time romp!”
“Seeking slut and lady in one package”
“Cum Sit On My…”
“Seeking slut and lady in one package”
Tags: sugar baby desire, sugar daddy desire, sugar relationship
I guess I’m still on West Coast time, can’t sleep!
Photogirl: SOOO happy to meet you in person. Very sorry if I talked your ear off. Never any awkward silences with me, that’s for sure. We will have to do it again sometime soon. Maybe we will run into the “cowardly lion” again. Ha ha. That was too funny!
On to blog topic:
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I am pretty straight forward in saying I want just ONE arrangement relationship – NSA. In my profile I mention something about fulfilling each others’ needs in ways (physically and emotionally) that keeps us both happy, but that we couldn’t possibly know what all those needs are until we spend real time together and discover if we are compatible in terms of chemistry. I also mention that I’m not seeking my future, but my ad interim.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
Good:“Enjoying life, care to join me?”
Bad: “What credit crunch?” ok, that one is kind of funny!
Ugly:“Looking for hot girl for lunch time romp!”
Not feeling very well and too sleepy to catch up on the last blog so figured I would start on the new one and actually answer the questions for once.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I do state in my profile that I’m looking for someone who is experienced with an SD/SB arrangement, but that doesn’t seem to stop the messages I get from members looking for a long-term traditional arrangement. I’m amazed at how many men on this site are looking for a live-in girlfriend. I don’t understand why these men don’t use SA’s sister site seekingmarriage.com instead since most of the women on this site, including myself, are looking for an arrangement and not a relationship.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
It’s not so much the headlines that stand out to me (though there are a few that have) but more the content of the profile. I look for men who have at least a paragraph or two about themselves and what they’re looking for. I don’t message anyone who says they’re looking for a traditional relationship, someone “open-minded” as that always means in the bedroom, someone who is solely focused on the sexual aspect of an arrangement, or someone who is looking for “pay for play” or “test drives”. I look for someone who is well-rounded and wants to have a true connection and even be a mentor as well. I look for true gentlemen and those who pride themselves on being such.
ahhh 3rd isnt so bad,at least it hits the number before ” i ccant read anymore…too much”
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
i say wat i want and wat i am not looking foward too,dont be around the bush here,just give it straight.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share? hmm anything with the words attractive,sweet? lol of course you gotta look at the depth as cali sb said to jdge character but somethings gt grab you to read that huh?
Hello all awake SB’s n SD’s,
Hope everyone is well.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
Be upfront that way if they do not like what they see they can move along, it can save both of us some valuble time. In my profile, well thats a bit hard to say you dont want to say “Dont get used to me i move along quickly and can cut you away from my life when i so choose” but you also dont want to sound needy. so a discussion after meeting about a happy even would be better.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
Ones that say “GENUINE” only because thats what im after, or ones that dont sound intimidating, offencive or repetitive.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I think I state pretty clearly, at least I feel I do, in my profile what I’m looking for.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
Yes, one headline. It read “Meeting of the Minds before the Loins.” I don’t know why, but that one stuck in my mind…LOL
Morining sugars!
Photo and Elegant ~ You two met!! Sweet! Glad you two had a good time.
How did the NY meet go everyone?
All the headlines have been lame. Least lame are, ‘why can’t you have it all?’ or ‘gentleman seeks princess’ or ‘where is my muse’ type of things. I don’t have a profile at the moment, on here, but when I did, I didn’t fill out much content. Instead I sent out feeler messages with my speil.
Good Morning Sugar Family!!
Thre was a NY Meet last night? I know we are having a DMV meet tonight in DC. >b>CAN NOT WAIT!!
I couldn’t get on the computer last night, was watching Hope for Haiti. Awesome!! Went to bed when it ended. I’ve been so exhausted the last few days, I’m feeling much better now. Def. gonna taek a power nap this afternoon so I can keep up with my new friends tonight!! Even getting a Mani/Pedi for the occasion!
what NY meet,wats that?
Good Morning, Sugar World!
Yes, Anna Molly. As soon as my flight landed, I met with Photogirl. Dragged her to a jazz club where we sat outside and talked until 3:00 a.m.!! Fun.
I am with Cali SB in that it is more the content than the headline, though sometimes the headline will intrigue me enough to click-through and read the rest.
Hope the NY meet was a blast! DC Sugars, have fun tonight. Enjoy your mani/pedi DSB.
Sexy – a ‘meet’ is when SDs and SBs meet up for dinner/drinks. I am relatively new to the blog so just learned of them myself. Where are you located? I know there is talk of doing one in Florida.
Boston SBs: Would any of you mind sharing your email address with me? I have been getting a few messages from Boston SDs. Have some questions.
Elegant – That sounded like tons-o-fun
Come on NY meet people!! We want details!! LOL
i am in NY but never heard of that did i miss out? lol
Sexy L- I’m pretty sure it is something informal that begins on the blogs and then details are shared and confirmed through email exchanges outside the blog. Someone from NY will read this and probably ask for your info for future meets. I am in NY frequently so want to be informed of future NY meets as well!
I went back to the last blog to catch up. Shew.. you people are hard to keep up with. The conversations keep changing, it’s like keeping up with a tennis match!!
I DID have a SD approach me IRL. Last summer, I was working with another agent. This older gentleman was interested in Long Term Care. I was out of business cards, but my parner gave him his. He INSISTED I give him my number on his card, just to be fair. When we got to the car, my friend said the old man would call me. He did. Asked me to a “business lunch”. Like I said, I tend to be niave. I went. He wanted an arrangement. He was 78. Now, I was a little nervous about the whole situation, but listened to what he had to say. We ate at a Peking Resteraunt. Watching him eat was the most horrifying experience of my life. I could not look at him!! We had Peking Duck. He had most of it on him face and hands, made these horrible smaking sounds while eating. I just keep my eyes on my plate. When we got back to his appartment, I declined coming in for a drink, said I was working, and had more people to see. He said “I will call you next week” I told him unless he wanted to get signed up for the policy we discussed, there is no need. I had no interest in seeing him socially. I had a BF (I did at the time) and was NOT interested in his offer. He was just gross!! Money can not buy class or maners. It was just sad.
Hey All – Good morning…yep, very excited about getting together tonight…None of the blog SDs wanted to join
, but we’re still going to have a blast.
Welcome Sexy – glad to see you on the blog – hope you’re having a good search.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile? Well, based on my profile, it’s pretty clear that I can’t be anyone’s long-term traditional girlfriend. I’m only looking for NSA and it’s definitely a clear message of that in my profile. Which I think is why I don’t get as many responses… only the ones that fit with what I’m looking for. But even for some who don’t “get” it – I still put in there that I’m looking for an arrangement only.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share? Not any good ones, but I did see one that said “looking for young p****” or something like that. Another one said “seeking slut and lady in one package” or something like that…. Just seems rude.
All right everyone – off to a hair appointment. Will try to check in while I’m sitting under the dryer….
Yes, please do tell re the NY meet…we want to know about all the good fun you had.
Ciao!
ESB – ewwww!! That’s just gross and nasty……. Why people don’t know how to eat properly is completely beyond me.
thanks VA
@sugar-oooh i see well that a good idea….interesting
Oh my gosh, ESB. I don’t know if I could ever eat Peking duck again if I were you!! Ick.
LOL @ ES, I very much doubt I will. It was my first and LAST time. The guy I was working the day I met him with teases me about it all the time. We’ll be in the office, and he’ll say “Hey, ESB, Wanna go get some lunch? How about some Peking Duck!” and laugh hysterically. It’s a wonder I haven’t broken his arm from punching it!! He loves me!! Great friend, but EEwwww lol
Gotta love friends like that!! I can’t stand when a person eats and spews food everywhere while smacking. It literally makes me nauseous! I met a pot SD for lunch and (although not as gross as the thought of Peking duck), he sprayed Ceasar salad all over the place! I even watched a shrapnel of crouton land in my Chardonnay. I was utterly disgusted.
LMAO Sorry, but that is funny. Sometimes, money don’t matter. peking duck man was with Dr.s with out borders. My co-worker and I joke he needs a personal etiquette trainer!! Would be a good use of his money.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
Hmm…I don’t think I address this very well in my profile..something to think about. On the flip side, I think that it would depend on the pot SD I was seeing. Some guys I could see myself being more involved with emotionally, and others whom I could def just have a very casual type of true NSA arrangement.
And in reply to guys seeking a more traditional LTR — I could see myself slipping into that very easily…with the RIGHT GUY. I couldn’t just jump into a long-term relationship from the get-go.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
LOL. Only the bad ones. I’ll have to log on later to pull all the horrifying ones I keep seeing.
And morning sugars! FINALLY got a good nights sleep! And watched the Hope for Haiti telethon last night…I <3 the performances! I still can't get Justin Timberlake's out of my head…I love love love that song!
I think at 78, a personal etiquette trainer would be a waste of money! Just wear a splash guard next time. Ha ha! Ewww. I just grossed myself out at the thought of that!
Good morning, Gemini! Glad you are rested! Feels great, doesn’t it? You are right though, the REALLY BAD ones stand out so much you have to click-through to see if the guy is for real. Then the worst part is, they see you viewed them so write you a letter!!! Oh, I LOVE ME some JT!
Elegant Sugar- EWWW!! If a piece of his crouton fell in my chard (not that I drink chard), I think I would struggle not to gag right there and then. And that would also see the exit of myself. Wolves eat neater than that.
The dinner last night was a nice affair, esp. for something so last minute. We had “veterans” in attendance (Muse and the inimitable NYCSB, whose Bahamas plans were scuttled at the last minute) and two newbies, at least to the in-person meet concept: LASB, who got the whole idea started yesterday, and NYCBella (who, ironically, is moving to LA soon and will become, I guess, LABella?). We were at a fairly upscale place in a quaint area of the West Village next to the Cherry Lane Theatre. The waitress (who looked like Kristin Chenoweth, only better), tried to get us to order the “whole calamari” but none of us bit. As usual NYCSB stuck to cab all night and as usual Muse and I flitted between white and red. We did not detect much drinkage by the newbies, perhaps they were just being cautious and trying to keep their wits on first meet (!). Beyond that NYCBella and NYCSB were surprised to discover that each had dated the same NY pot — although no one should have been that surprised because by definition NYC has dated every last NY pot, at least once (!). There were many tales of weirdo SDs and a debate as to whether the # of “real” SDs (i.e., willing to pay an allowance) was closer to 5% or 10%. It turned out that we all work at Avis (different branches), so we had that in common too, although LASB is thinking of switching to National, better benes. Muse and NYC SB continued to pursue discussions about their SD/SB speed dating venture, they are sorting out the privacy/discretion issues and then moving to the seed money stage if there are any investors out there who’ve tired of treasuries. NYC/LA Bella made a good case for real estate, which is her present gig. LASB is investing in herself by planning for law school, which I should have but did not try to discourage her from pursuing.
All in all a nice, and probably tamer affair than the earlier NY dinner (and certainly the Chicago meet), and definitely the closest I will ever come to the Playboy Mansion.
Lexii and Elegant, hope to see you next time . . .
It is NEVER to late to learn something new. I gotta believe that!! There is hope for everyone, but I am not the one to teach him. (shudders at the thought) Yea, a splash guard is a good idea, and yes, that is really disgusting!! lol
I made a few changes to my profile. I’m going to leave the getting involved issues for when I meet someone. If it happens, great, if not, we can be great friends. Just not putting it out there so sway anyone who is reading my profile. May make some bulk, for one reason or the other.
Ooh, I wished I had heard about the NY meeting…sigh, I’m in Manhattan too. I just don’t read the blog much, or as much as I should…lol
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I think I say I someone part-time in my profile…I honestly can’t remember what I wrote, but I do know that I stated “no drama.” I have enough of that IRL, y’know! I’m not looking for someone who is going to be possessive or has a problem with sanity
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
There aren’t any headings that particularly stick out to me- BUT, there’s one guy who has two different profiles and sends the same form email from them. How do I know???? Well, duh, he sent me the same email from both accounts….lol!!!
The email states that he’s a BIIIIIIG spender who goes to charity functions and spends $250 for a ticket, and he’s looking for a cutie to take to these things and then take her home and have his way with her (I’m dressing this up to make it sound nicer than he wrote). Then he states he’ll give $250 for every meeting. She has to fill out an I-9 form and a marketing/independent contractor contract with his business firm and is then responsible for the taxes of the $250 as she’s got a contract with his firm.
He then states that he ONLY goes to high-end events….I laughed my butt off when I got the same two emails from the different accounts..
Why, oh why, can’t someone bring me the perfect pair of shoes??? Why?
Don’t know if it’s my place to say but since I’m awake for at least the next few minutes, I’ll report on the NY meet.
It was lovely. There was a lot of delicious food and wine and even better conversation. It was so nice to met NYC Bella and LASB and catch up again with NYC SB and NY Gent.
Ok, I can go back to bed now. A bit too much wine means a lot of sleep.
The moment made me think of the line from the movie, American Psycho.
” That’s a very expensive glass of Chardonnay you’re NOT drinking. It isn’t poisoned.”
As far as I was concerned, that dissolving crouton bomb that landed in my glass WAS poison! Ick, ick, double ick!!
Loved the recap NYGent! Very nice. Wish I was there. Please, please keep me informed of your next one. Pretty certain I will be in NYC in Feb.
CarpathianCutie…don’t you just LOVE it when they send you the same “form” letter from two different profiles! I want to call them out on it; instead I just ignore or respond politely that I have already found what I’m looking for. I always veer on the side of being courteous with at least a response – even if it is only half true.
Hi everyone!
ElegantSugar~ Glad your trip back was good! And you met Photogirl, isn’t she nice?…
NY Blog Crowd- Sounds like you all had a lovely time! How fun!
…I really need to make an effort to be able to make the east coast meets! After tonight, I will have missed out on three!
Hey ES!
Ooooh, my first blog exchange…how exciting..lol
The first time I saw the “form email” I LMAO! ‘Cause if it were really a BIIIG society do wacka do, he wouldn’t be paying “only” $250 a ticket…snort, snort!
Secondly- TAXES?!?!?! TAXES?!
Yikes!
And I still wonder, where oh where are my perfect shoes….
ES- truthfully I don’t answer the form emails. If I’m sweating bullets trying to write a nice hello email, cute and paste is soooo icky
I know, Carp. (Mind if I call you that? Ha ha.) I don’t know what some of these guys think. That just because we are in a ‘rough spot’ financially in life, means we are inexperienced and not worldly enough to have ever attended high society type functions. Give me a break! The taxes part is ludicrous, to say the least. Not to mention the amount he is offering.
I answer back politely mostly to avoid the second letter, which can sometimes be rude, “I saw you read my message, why haven’t you responded???” I even had a guy write, “What? Was it my breath???” Photogirl and I were laughing about this last night.
Good morning, Beach_girl! Yes, LOVED photogirl. She is very much a sweetheart. I felt so horrible for keeping her out so late! I had so much energy from being stuck on flights all the live-long day. But we talked and talked and talked. Very fun!
ElegantSugar~ She is awesome, it’s ok I think i kept her awake too in Chicago lol…
I am pretty certain photogirl and I were getting propositioned by a LIVE SD too at the jazz club. I will let her share the story!
Elegant – I’ve had a few guys send the form letter. One guy has sent me the same exact letter THREE TIMES. And the accompanying “why didn’t you pick meeee?” letters.
I’m debating whether to see a pot SD next week for lunch/dinner. I’m getting the feeling that he might just be interested in dating “pretty girls”…
I can’t wait for the day when I can’ meet all of you. I feel like we are already friends. Tonight is going to be wonderful, I just know it!!
Well, I need to get moving. Got lots to do today, and it’s not getting done sitting here!!
Gemini: Go with your gut, girlfriend!!
ESB: Enjoy your mani/pedi and can’t wait to hear the recap tomorrow. I look forward to meeting everyone to. It would be great to have one gigantic meet somewhere! I had a date with a pot SD last Sunday and he said he saw a group of ladies at the airport not too long ago and they were all wearing cute little crystal encrusted baby tees that said, “My Sugar Daddy is better than Yours.” How CUTE!!!
“too” not “to”. Hate it when I don’t proofread.
ElegantSugar~ Wow, I can’t wait to hear about it!
ESB~It is nice to meet the blog people… i wish we could all meet one day!
Good morning, Muse. Enjoy sleeping off that wine! What a great reason to stay in bed; wine hangover.
NYGent: That is pretty funny about NYCBella and NYCSB going out with the same pot SD. I am pretty convinced if all of us from the blog got together, many of us would find out we either communicated with or went out on dates with the same pots! The sugar world seems large, but it is actually quite small!
ES- Oh call me Carp! It’s supposed to be a lucky fish and shiny too! LOL!
I never get the same email from a guy. What I do HATE, HATE, HATE is when they ask for a photo, you send it, and you never hear anything back
Not everyone is everyone’s cup of tea, but at least be polite about it. Personally I was shocked that it happened to me last Saturday! Two emails from two diff guys -sent photos..nada!
And hey! I’m 34-25-36, cheekbones that can slice glass, fab lips…yeah, I’m a hottie and NADA.
Poooo!
hahahah just got a classic “ew” email from a guy.
header: “mmm”
body of email: “come to daddy”
How about NO. ew. ew. ew. ew. ew.
Carp: Definitely do not take it personally. There are a ton of photo collectors out there. I HATE IT TOO! Boys pretending to be MEN even. This outlet gives them an avenue to talk with/email a beautiful woman they wouldn’t otherwise have a chance with in real life. They probably show the photos to their friends (a la panties, “Sixteen Candles”) to prove they “talk with hot chicks all day online.” (a la Kip, Napoleon Dynamite”)
GROSS, Gemini!! I just threw up in my mouth a little…
Classy emails like that just make me really want to meet the guy, you know? *laughs*
Give me SDN’s velveeta-licious pick-up lines any day!
ES- eeewwwww!!
Gemini- I’m so sorry!
I once had an email exchange from a guy who said he wanted to “cut to the chase” and “didn’t have time for nonsense.” He said he wanted to meet me for coffee at Starbucks near his office at 7 am before he went to work, and if I met with his inspection, he’d spend his lunchtime with me.
Comments anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
Ok ladies (and gents), I’m off for breakfast! Hope your weekends are all a blast!
OH and to the MD/VA/DC blog crowd– I’ll miss you all tonight! Have FUN!!!!
Carpathian: the best way to avoid that situation is to post 3 clear photos on your profile, if at all possible. I understand not everyone can. Now I’m sure this is not the explanation in your case, but it is very awkward for an SD (or SB) to ask for photos from someone who doesn’t post them, then receive photos, and not be attracted to them. What is one supposed to say: “Yes I got your photos but I didn’t like them?” Would the photo-sender really prefer that to silence? I just assume silence means non-interest and leave it at that. The alternative is to make something up: “yes I got your photos but in the meantime I’ve found an SD/SB.” Of course then you’re fibbing (or white lying). Maybe somebody has a good suggestion for a stock answer, in response to photos that don’t turn you on, that is both respectful and truthful and doesn’t hurt, i just haven’t found one yet.
Carp – lol!! SEVEN AM?!! Bwhahahahahaah.
NYGent- I’d much rather have someone email me and let me know I’m not their type than to hear nothing, it’s so rude. WAAAH
NY Gent – “I don’t think we’d be a good match.” ? I know, its hard to get criticism on looks in any sort of dating world…we all want to be considered attractive to every one we meet…but a strong person won’t take it personally and will be able to move on, because that is part of life. I figure if I get radio-silence from them, then I am just not what they are looking for, and life goes on. I think honestly I’d prefer that to “You ugly! You very very ugly!” lol
Morning, lovelies…
I concur with NY Gent and Muse…it was a really good evening…good wine…good food…great company.
As far as it being my first meet, I had such a nice experience…was so good to connect with other sugars in the real world (I think we pretty much shut the place down, the conversation kept flowing endlessly)
Definitely, a great impromptu way to spend a Friday evening.
OH, and NY Gent, you’re being modest…3 glasses of wine was more than sufficient to have me all warm and fuzzy all night.
(Oh, and I think it was LASB that’s in Real Estate…I’m the actress/PR/Web designer).
Anywho, NYC SB is just as amazing a wealth of knowledge in person as she appears online, though she’s very coy and never “kisses and tells”…well, unless it happens that we have “something” in common…lol.
For all that were unable to join us, you were missed, but hey…maybe we can throw together impromptu meets again. I’m game!
Gemini- you don’t know how many times I’ve wanted to say that…lol. KIDDING!
Seriously, why do men state they have an “athletic figure” and then send a photo of them FAT. What athletics?? Food olympics?
NYCBella: of course, dancer/singer etc. blew out your knee, I knew that. A bit of a slip of the keys on the real estate.
gemi: that’s not a bad line, although if the ONLY new info you get from somebody is a pic and you respond “don’t think we’re a match,” it pretty much is the same thing as saying “didn’t like your photos” in perhaps a slightly kinder, gentler manner. Maybe there’s no perfect answere here . ..
Hey all –
Gemini – what do you mean by “pretty girls?” I see on profiles all the time where the men want “10’s” or “beautiful women only” or “must have model looks”… Well, I am none of those (freely admit it), but I am still a sexy, engaging, fun to be with, classy, down to earth, beautiful “to some” type of woman… I’m sure the beautiful people exist – hell, some of our bloggers fit the bill I’m sure. But it’s so funny how the profiles will specifically call out those attributes that many women probably don’t fit.
Well, I live close enough to NY – so I want to be at the next meet as well!
. Deinitely time I started traveling more.
NY Gent~Ehhh…I forgive you.
I’m still in bed deciding whether or not to sleep off the rest of the wine.
LASB~Such a sweetheart! Hope your journey home is a safe one. I’m liking the idea of be LABella…good times ahead!
Muse and NYC SB~Can’t wait to hear how the speed sugaring develops! We should def invite our mutual pot…he’d be a perfect candidate! Hahahaha…
*becoming* thoughts jumped ahead of my typing
Gemini – that’s funny – although I think I’m pretty strong and try to roll with the punches – if I received a response like that (the “you ugly” chant), I’d probably cry…I’d laugh about it later, but yeah – would probably cry first.
For me, sometimes silence is the best way to say “no thank you”. If someone is interested they will write back. If not, then they won’t – and that’s fine. I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and I get that.
You know what I’m curious about- the average length of a search for an SD for an SB and an SB for a SD. What are the stats???? lol!
Carp~Hmmm…prolly depends on your geographical location. But I think we came to a conclusion last night that in NY…it can take a month or two to decide on pots and come to an arrangement (but then again, the sugar pool is a bit larger here).
NYCBella, thanks for the info!
I want to come to the next meet, so please give me a few days notice before the next impromptu gathering…thanks! LOL
No prob…Ugh…my tummy is saying “no more liquid dinner!” “FEED ME!” lol…guess it’s time to drag myself outta bed. TTYL, sugars.
Carpathian – forgive me but charity tables of 10 range from $1k to $100k. $250 for a ticket isn’t that much for NY. Though frankly the food at these events is pretty gruesome. I can’t remember the italian restaurant near Grand Central Station.
i’m assuming none of us would survive SERE school (US) or E&E (UK) special forces. i’m really wierd as I love talking to Special Forces soldiers – also SDs love the stories too.
I answered the blog q – UncommonSB’s question last night in the previous blog.
NYGent – I only work at Hertz to obtain mileage and gas receipts for cars which drive 1,875 miles just before Xmas to then send by email. Why do you guys work at Avis? Do they really try harder – should I switch?
Pax
just testing
SB/SD dating is just like any other Internet dating. You haven’t met someone yet, so therefore you are also not going out with them. Writing email and sending out photos in order to get to know someone is a requirement of online dating. You will probably get one response back for every three to five emails you send. Therefore, you don’t just want to write one person then wait for him or her to respond back. To ensure a steady stream of responses, send several emails to pots who interest you. But write each one PERSONALLY, don’t create form letter you send out to EVERY single person you’re interested in. (This is my opinion only!)
Although I am generally quite courteous with responding even with a “Thank you, but I don’t think we’re a fit” response, NOT responding back is okay too.
Here’s the thing: when someone initially contacts you, and for whatever reason you decide they aren’t quite right, ignoring their email is perfectly reasonable online etiquette. This is very different from what you’d expect with “real life” encounters, but in the online world it’s fine. Look at it this way, do you really want someone to respond back and tell you, “U-G-L-Y! You ain’t got no alibi, YOU UGLY!” Of course not. Don’t take offense if you don’t get a response back from someone you’ve sent photos to.
Sounds like NY meet was an awesome time!! Would love to be there next time!
oooh, it worked, it worked…lol
true…does take a while in ny lol.
Flo Rida- you’re talking about Cipriani- I’ve been there for events…they do have lovely appetizers though. Oh, I know how much “society dos” tickets cost- been there, done that have the T-shirt, which is why I was laughing my teeny butt off when I got his email.
I’m thinking he’s prolly going to industry cocktail events and trying to pass it off as something else. Or, he’s been reading some really bad chick lit for research…LOL
ES- love your sense of humor “U-G-L-Y! You ain’t got no alibi, YOU UGLY!” I may borrow that!
Ha ha ha!! Cracking up at Carp’s “food olympics” comment!! Or what about the ones who claim an income of $1-2 million then after a few exchanges, write to you telling they lost everything, but are projecting to be back up in that range within six months…would you be willing to agree to no allowance until then?! And save your receipts for your airfare and expenses when you fly out to seem them so they can reimburse you later. PUH-LEASE. I was born in the morning…but not THIS morning.
No way–save your receipts?? HUH?? **shakes head** Oh well, I’m off to the post office to send off stuff to my lucky ebay winners. You wouldn’t believe what people pay for stuff!
I have stories!
MWAH Y’all!
Bisou! Bisou!
Have a lovely day, Carp!
I’m off for a smoothie and kettlebell training now!
Have a wonderful, sugary day, loves! <3
agree with elegant on the “no response” issue.
another advantage of posting 3 clear pics is that when someone asks for more, you can reasonably decline on the theory that he’s probably a photo collector (esp if he hasn’t posted pics and doesn’t offer to reciprocate). I personally post 3 and on the rare occasions where someone asks for more I tell them politely, “sorry, but 3 should be enough.” And when somebody asks for more where they haven’t posted any, and before offering to send any, I can be a little less polite.
Juiced up and Java infused this SUNNY Saturday Morning in Cali… My Rain Rain go away wish came true
Ok, to answer the new topic questions:
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek?
When I first joined SA I put on my brave face and super-glued a great big NSA sign to my forehead. No need to put it in my profile, I was scared out of my mind to have a deep caring relationship with someone, anyone for that matter. My first SD was married and very sweet. But because he was married my super glued sign quickly became a huge banner in the sky with big letters spelling out the three little letters N S A …
It wasn’t that I did not care or have feelings for him, I just had to justify or protect my emotions or at least my newbie-ness told me to go that direction.
My views have changed greatly over the past year.
Thank goodness! Bottled up emotions are not good for the soul.
I changed my criteria and focused on the single SD’s and found my Prince Charming. I am a lucky lucky girl.
The NSA road leads people in many directions. You may find people along the way who have taken several short journeys and now find that NSA leaves them feeling a bit, well maybe empty is the best word I can find to describe it. Just think about your own journey and try to have a gentle response to those who are feeling out the PTA (Possible Treads Attached) type of arrangement. Until you have walked in their shoes you will never know the road that lead them to you.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you?
Favorite one: “Dreams Can Come True”
Worst one (but for some strange freaking reason I was compelled to click on the profile and read it, stupid stupid mistake. He emailed me 5 minutes later!): “Cum Sit On My…”
Again, I’m running late for something, but did read a bit of NYGent’s recap, and loved it. Thank you for mentoring me into switching to National. The benefits package is much better than at Avis. Let me know when you all want to jump ship too.
NYGent, you are an angel and brought the magic that put this together in such a short period of time! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Bella, Muse, and NYCSB – It was such a pleasure to meet you all!
NYCSB – I’m still looking into hacking into your computer for all that valuable knowledge.
Muse – having now read yesterday’s blog, I regret not talking more art with you. I highly recommend seeing Anthony McCall’s installation in Chelsea. Make sure you stand in the tunnel of light.
Bella – Look me up upon your LA arrival.
OC: good advice, and the “a bit empty” comment has some real resonance. I am still not sure I am cut out for the “pure” sugar world, and wonder how many others have ambivalent feelings about it too, even if they do enjoy the site and blog.
LASB and Muse – if you love art go to Art Basel in Miami in early December and the equivalent event in Basel, Switzerland. Even if you don’t buy, there are lots of very rich men there – clearly there are also lots of fakers (but you get that anywhere). You’ll have to shell out some cash but ‘it takes money to make money’. Also getting VIP invites require knowing people to snag tickets to cocktail and private receptions.
Switching gears knowing people at LiveNation gets you into lots of national premium concerts. Finally Carpathian – yes I forgot the name – I was thinking Carmines but knew it wasn’t Carmine’s. I hope you agree that Cipriani event food sucks (sorry to anyone who works there).
I suppose i’m revealing my secrets about IRL millionaire – billionaire dating – but I’m hoping guessing I don’t really need them anymore.
Still working hard at Hertz to fund my retirement!
Good Morning NYGent and thanks
Finding your sugar groove takes time but so worth the wait.
James! I am so excited for tonight, he has planned something for us tonight and won’t tell me a thing. A delivery came this morning which was a fabulous dress and Manolo’s. I think he feels that I need a bit of princess treatment. What girl doesn’t? Thank you for giving me encouragement earlier this week. It was just want I needed to hear. You are wonderful
NY Gent: I concur with your feelings of ambivalence regarding the sugar world. I am very much that way and have to get into a ‘mental’ focus about the whole thing before each date. I have been fortunate that both of my past SDs were quite patient in waiting for things to happen naturally as far as physical affection. I cannot feign affection – no matter what. I realize that we probably are not going to find that ideal person we are physically attracted to who can also offer us the things we need financially. I have always been independent and fared quite well for myself financially until this past year so it was (and at times, still is) a struggle for me to be here, but it is a choice I have made and thankfully, have more wonderful experiences to share than bad ones. Now that I am back in the ‘SB MARKET’, I am currently in the ‘SD speed dating’ mode that you guys were joking about and have had some offers made that some SBs would probably call me crazy for not accepting. But in my heart, I knew it would have been unfair to the SD because I truly did not ‘connect’ with him for one reason another.
Flo – Thank you for the advice. I’ve been meaning to go to Art Basel for the last two years but didn’t make it. Hopefully I will this year.
LASB – Thanks for the recommendation but don’t regret it. I don’t know much about art…just what I like.
Someone else said something to me but I can’t find/remember it now. Sorry.
Morning all.
Ha ha, Muse! I am feeling your wine hangover all the way in Florida! HYDRATE!
Elegant -The sad part is, I feel fine. Just really thirsty. I have been chugging water for the last 15 minutes (since I woke up again) and feel like I’m going to turn into a fountain before I feel better. sorry if that’s TMI.
Flo/Carp~I totally agree…Cip Dolce was very diappointing (esp having had a nice experience at their Wall St. location)…they completely dropped the ball, though it is nice to sit there and watch the laser show on Gr. Central’s ceiling for a little respite during the holiday season madness.
LASB~Definitely!
So, now the question/answer portion of the program…
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I think, in my limited experience thus far as IRL, it just weaves it’s way into the conversation naturally. In my profile, I mention that I’m looking for someone experienced in MBAs and if they question that, then I know they’re too green or clueless to really spend time on.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
The simple yet sincere ones are always worth perusing IMO…
Though the one that really sticks out (which we all had a good chuckle over last night is…) “Rich Doc seeks Groups of Kinky Girls…”
Hmmm…I wonder how that’s working out for him?
NYGent – What do you mean by pure sugar?
To avoid wine hangovers (and believe me, I know this works..I LOVE wine):
Have a glass of water for each glass of wine you desire to have. Wine is a great source of water, but the presence of water tends to produce adverse effects on the body. Hence, it is necessary to keep hydrating your body with water. Another thing that works, although sounds gross, is to drink a glass of milk prior to consuming wine. This will provide a protection coat to your stomach and helps you absorb the alcohol in the wine.
If you didn’t do either one of those things, believe it or not, eating a bacon sandwich cures hangovers! (Hopefully you aren’t vegetarian!) Alcohol depletes neurotransmitters, thus causing a hangover headache. Bacon contains a high level of protein which breaks down into amino acids which then tops these up and gets rid of your headache!
“Rich Doc seeks Groups of Kinky Girls…”
Seriously?!
Elegant Thank you for the advice but I don’t get wine hangovers like that. I just need a little extra sleep and some water to recover, but I do dehydrate easily. Probably a good since since I am vegetarian (well, pescatarian.) I am sitting around eating some corn chips and salsa and that’s cheering me up…well…mentally at least.
Hiya all…
Well I feel like the NY meet has been covered by all other parties… it was pretty low key but tons of fun! By the end of the night we were the loudest table at the place
NYC Bella – we should clarify that our “mutual pot” I met many months ago and am since just a friend with him…
NYGent – thank you for putting this together! You ROCK!
CarpathianCutie – I see you too have been contacted by tuxedo guy… he pretty much emailed every NY area woman on the blog with the same proposal …
I’m off to see NYSE… he arrived in NYC last night but dinner kinda ran late so I went home instead…. so off to see him now
NYC has been blessed with wonderful weather today… its sunny and (relatively) warm…
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile? In my profile, I tend to highlight the benes of being in an arrangement that allows the sd to realize he won’t have to punish the kids are run the next carpool. IRL dating has been full of short-term relationships with the end realizing it was a bad choice. Sugar suits me as there are no long-term expectations and I am quite happy with the companionship plus benes. I’m open to long-term sugar arrangements and state it in my profile. When discussions b/w SD and I about our arrangement were going back and forth, he was clear to share that he joined the sugar world b/c he is not looking for marraige, but likes all the other aspects of the arrangement. I feel exactly the same way.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share? I detest the obvious ones treating women like sex objects. I like the more respectful headlines…and ones that have an intellectual inuendo.
NYGent – You are such a prince for putting together the NY meet! It’s official…I have missed a meet, so I don’t have to sweat the record anymore *phew*. It sounds like another business idea is coming to fruition and the car rental business could add a whole new level of speed-dating. Meet your sb and get your rental car!
Carp – It took me 3 months to meet my SD. It required work on my part…this is truly a scenario where you get out of it what you put into it.
Anna – “loins” guy has viewed my profile as well. I wonder if heis a lurker?
LASB and Photogirl – Photogirl is a great listener! I’m so glad you two had fun!
SD and I had a WONDERFUL evening together … it’s always a treat seeing him again!
Elegant~The water definitely helps (I probably finished 4 glasses at dinner and my head’s ok…though woke up pretty tired which could be the wine or the simple fact that I’ve been getting 4hrs of sleep a night for the last month). And, having greasy cheese fries this morning was also really good. (Since I am a veggie and don’t have the bacon option).
Oh yea, he exists. He’s probably just not “real”. He contacted me ages ago…twice. The second time I pretended that I was really interested and wanted in on these “sessions”. He emailed me for about a week a two and then poofed. I haven’t heard from him since.
I know, I’m the same way. Rarely get wine hangovers. I think my body is VERY used to wine by now. Not sure if this a good sign or bad one??? If I mix my alcohol though…I tend to get more of an uneasy feeling the next day. I can actually wake up early and go for a run after a night out. I feel as though by sweating from the run, I get the alcohol out of my body quicker and in a more healthy. (Sorry if that is TMI…)
Gossip Girl (aka NYC SB)~Have fun today! Yes, true there are a few months separating us…such a small world though…lol.
I think I’m the only SB in NY the tuxedo guy hasn’t contacted…is it the blonde hair??? I’m starting to feel really neglected…
Though now I’ve probably jinxed myself and will have to come up with a really witty quip to respond.
Elegant~just look under Recent LogIns and you’ll see what I mean.
Hi Midwest! I know you intended to type Elegant & Photogirl, not LASB. Yes, we had a great time last night. Photogirl is just a darling!
NYCBella: Greasy cheese fries are HEAVEN on EARTH after a night of drinking!!
Muse: What creep factor! I wonder if he is the same one who claims to be a photographer for FHM, MAXIM and Playboy (as if that is supposed to be impressive) and “sick of the emptiness” in the models he works with and offers $20K a month allowance.
Flo: Love your ‘takes money to make money’ mindset. So VERY true. You have to swim in the same pool to catch the right big fish.
hi lovelies…i’m leaving for my first in-person sd date.. little nervous. he’s taking me shopping and then we’re getting dinner. I’m dressed to go shopping in jeans and a cute top but im afraid that i’ll be underdressed for dinner… perhaps i could casually mention that we should look for something i could wear tonight.. i dunno. we’ll see how it goes. i’m just gonna be myself and see what happens.. worst case scenario i come back and work on my term paper lol
wish me luck! i’ll be back to post an update later
Muse~wait…you really did message the kinky doc?
OC – I echo everything you said and will not repeat it in my own response to the blog questions! I was screaming NSA from the rooftops lol..now I have met a pot that has changed so much of my perspective…haven’t met him yet IRL – but soon
It is a very spiritual connection (not something I expected to find here AT ALL) and don’t think if things progressed I would consider him my SD at all…he has already given me more than a monetary price tag can afford…maybe my head is just in the clouds…
I have hidden my profile as of yesterday…is that silly since I haven’t even met him yet??
Elegant – Possibly, but that sounds like a different person. This guy was really into his persona as a doctor.
Bella – Sort of. He was emailing me the same stock email so I finally responded out of curiosity. I knew he wasn’t for real but I wanted to see what he would say. Bonus – he hasn’t bothered me since.
Have a FABULOUS time, BostonSB! Perhaps you should bring a little “primping bag” packed with a dress and heels for dinner? If he buys you something, WONDERFUL…but if he doesn’t, at least you have dinner attire to change into. I have done this and let the pot SD know I had a wardrobe change with me for dinner. A few times, I have gotten the, “Well, I was hoping I could buy you something to wear for dinner.”
Let us know how it goes!!
Thank You Stephan for creating yet another FABULOUS blog topic! You are a sugar blog genius.
I had fun answering it. It made me think back and see how far I have come down the sugar path.
XXX Sugar Hugs to You
BostonSB – Yay! You sound sooooo excited. I totally agree with Elegant’s suggestion of bringing a change of clothes. He will appreciate you didn’t take it for granted he would buy you a change of clothes.
Gemi – Awwwww…so sweet. I don’t know that I would hide my profile just yet. When are you supposed to meet him? I’ve been impressed by men over the phone/e-mail and then have been terribly disappointed after meeting him IRL. You have nothing to lose by keeping your search active. I truly hope he is as wonderful as you think he is <3
TT: I feel you! Happens when you least expect it, doesn’t it? I have a similar scenario where we have gotten really close over the phone and just have a certain connection that is different than others I have met here. The venue in which we met (SA) seems arbitrary to me really because we both feel we would have approached one another had we met somewhere else IRL. He is flying here next week to spend a couple of days so we will see how it goes in person. It isn’t silly that you’ve hidden your profile. Opening up the heart is a brave, brave thing and reminds us we’re alive. Once you two meet in person, you will know for sure.
MMD – me not Gemi
And yes I know..I have had so many disappointments already…and promised myself I would not get wrapped up and hopeful so much before meeting. We were ’supposed’ to meet in a few weeks – he was going to come here as he had some time off. However, since we have started speaking, he has signed a huge contract in Toronto and may be here as soon as next week 
As far as keeping my search active – not really interested…it is putting a lot of hope in one SD however, I do think if I am that far off the mark then it is time for a break after this lol…
I loved your response by the way, OCsugarbaby. I have mixed feelings about displaying NSA on my profile; even though I do. Partially because there really are strings since an allowance is expected. But I mostly mean that I don’t want to be in a commitment that affects us both day to day like a boyfriend/girlfriend type of situation.
Yikes! I’m getting my names all mixed up today!
Many apologies TT and Elegant! My wine hangover is showing…so tired
Elegant – yes and I agree. He gets me – which many people do not lol…I suppose I am complex – but not to him. Weird. And I suppose it is opening your heart again…good way to look at it
Ty. Either way, if I choose to be his SB or not, he said he would be here as my ‘teacher’…which I take great comfort in as he has already taught me so much from a distance.
I wish you luck as well sugar!!
TT – I always say trust your instincts. Lots of sugar dust! It would be super-fantabulous if he gets out your wey next week!!!
Hi Taz! Oh sweetie hiding your profile is a very sweet gesture and to tell you the truth…I did the same exact thing!
Nothing wrong with feeling 10 feet off the ground and your head in the clouds. Your positive attitude will take you far. I LOVE your last post about him!!!
thanks ladies! I packed a cute dress some heels and a makeup bag.. ahhh i’m nervous! but happy that we’re going to a familiar public place
ill be back! xo
MMD – thanks and yes. My fingers are crossed – trust me lol!
Elegant – I have/had NSA in my profile also. So does my pot SD lol…and I have not told him I have hidden my profile btw lol..
Happy shopping and sugaring little SugarBEAN!
MMD: Forgiven! Hey, if wine is the cause of it all…that’s a fine good excuse if you ask me!
OC – thank you and glad to know I am not just being naive. But it IS different. Who knows how long it may last or how far it will go…but I am along for the wonderful ride
Again darling – thanks for the sugar luck you gave me…this year has been thus far, unreal!
MMD – no offence taken either lol- if you are confusing me with Gemi – I am flattered
Taz you are most welcome, I shared some with 2Chic as well. I have a good feeling for both of you! A positive attitude will get to you places you have never dreamed of
I emailed with the rich doc last year. He also poofed on me!
OC – Yay!! We will have to see who else needs some
Thanks again sugar! Glad everything for you and bf are going well! Hang in there! Everything for reason – I am sure you are an IRL angel to him!! 
TT: Awww. He would probably smile broadly if he knew! That’s wonderful, darling! Although I am at a point in life where I truly do not want a committed relationship, I am a true hopeless romantic and want to fall head over heels in love again one day. You ARE opening your heart and good for you!! In truth, the heart can never break, for it is already by nature soft and receptive. What actually breaks is the defensive shell around the heart that we have constructed to try to our protect our soft spot, where we feel most deeply affected by life. Breaking out of that shell makes us feel a little naked, so to speak, Yet in this nakedness we taste the essential nature of our existence and through that vulnerability, we are more in touch with ourselves and with the person we are ‘falling for’ in a much deeper way.
Geez, sorry to get so deep, guys! Saturdays are my WRITING days and I guess TT’s excitement inspired me!
OC – Have a special sugary evening with SD/BF. He is truly a keeper!
DMV ladies – have a GREAT time tonight…can’t wait for the report!
I’m off…have to rest up for a night with a long, lost friend! Maybe my sugar luck will carry over to the casino for a little poker!
ElegantSugar I hear ya sister on the NSA mixed bag of emotions! That is why I used the acronym PTA (Possible or even Partial Treads Attached). Yes, I agree strings are attached to some extent. But when I found that both of us felt comfortable pulling at Treads instead of a full blown string attachment. The sky’s opened up and the angels began to sing! Ha-ha ok, maybe not quite, but darn close.
I can honestly say that what I have currently is the best GF/BF relationship in my life.
We wrote the script together and actually negotiated the terms so to speak.
Neither of us want to get married again
We agreed on it being a GF/BF introduction to others
Our day to day career and future ambitions will only be supported not hindered
I turned down a monthly allowance but have been spoiled far beyond my wildest dreams
YES!! Elegant – you hit it right on the head
My words are just very jumbled lol – so thank you for being so eloquent! (maybe you should change your name to Eloquent Sugar 
) Sorry for anyone else if we are getting too deep lol! I thought about telling him, but I did not do it to impress him or prove anything to him at all. It just felt right to hide it right now.
Wow! OC sounds so familiar…so happy for you! That is the way it should be in ANY relationship – you make your own script – not society deeming for you in a cookie cutter, one size fits all ‘ideal’.
OK – gotta run or else my dog doesn’t eat tonight
Talk soon sugars! And as always – thanks for the support!!! Ha ha – like most of you I don’t have anyone to talk to about all of this wonderful stuff!!
Awwww, OC, I literally just had chills run down my spine reading what you just wrote!!! That is amazing and a wonderful testimony! I am not sure I ever want to marry again either. Fall in love, YES. Marriage, not sure. So happy for you!
Muse: by “pure” sugar, which may be a misnomer, I guess I mean a situation that is truly NSA, each leads pretty much entirely separate lives except when together, there is not a great deal of emotional connectivity beyond a base level of mutual compatibility, the “relangemenship” is largely static with no real prospect for growth, and would abruptly end the moment the sugar stops flowing from either direction.
Don’t get me wrong there are advantages to one or more of the above, and for many it is the only way to go. But I do think OC was onto something with the “bit of emptiness” comment and that’s what I was responding to.
Oh no, must feed the dog, TT!!! I know. I am SO THANKFUL for this blog. This is the ONLY place I can share any part of my sugar world experiences. That’s why meeting photogirl in person last night was so awesome!! I think I talked her ear off, but it was GREAT being able to use the language we use here and have an ear (and heart) that understood and didn’t look at me with a judging eye. Thank goodness for this Sugar Bowl!!
NYGent: It was that “bit of emptiness” that caused me to break off my last two arrangements. I felt given the time (6 months with each), some sort of spark should have ignited within me that would have made things feel more genuine. Perhaps that is human error on my part? Not sure.
Enjoy the rest of your afternoon, Sugars. A delicious salmon with orange ginger glaze I roasted earlier is calling my name!
profile modifications and photo upload approved within ten minutes? Woah. Amazing.
ew ew ew ew—worst headline EVER: “loving sex with young girls”
ive actually talked to the “rich doc seeks groups of kinky girls” and hes a complete jerk, and a fake if you ask me, I think its ok when your upfront about what you want and all but when you decide its ok for you to be just plain rude or shady its a big minus.
I think I spotted that profile about attending high profile events and wanting to pay the arrangement through an invoice/bill or whatnot! Too funny…. that’s a piddling amount for what he’s asking for. Expecting wild endings to the evening, when you’re getting less than what you’d get if you would have been a cocktail waitress at the event. Sheesh.
NYGent – Ah, but that’s the beauty of the sugarworld. There are people looking for all sorts of things. I realize it’s not easy to find someone to who is looking for the same thing that you’re attracted to mentally, physically and emotionally, but it is possible and I really believe you’ll find her.
Elegant - I’m sorry you haven’t found that spark yet but hopefully you will soon. Perhaps with the pot you’re meeting this week (or was it next week?)
Re: Rich doc and high profile event guy – I don’t actually mind their profiles so much. At least they make it easy for us to spot them and avoid them. It’s the time wasters that are worse.
Finally, I met 30-minute SB. She came 20 minutes late, which would be the kiss of death for a 30-minute rendezvous. Seeing her in person made me realize that everyone I have met on SA is at least 1-2 points lower in person on a 1-10 physical appearance scale as compared to their SA photos. There was a certain charm to her which made me able to see myself in bed with her despite her not being physically “my type”. But I know that if I do go for her, it won’t last because I am just not physically attracted enough. So, I paid her what we agreed (she had insisted on pay-per-meet), didn’t sleep with her, and am now moving on to three other pots whom I haven’t met yet. One of them says that she had an SD before, which I now consider a big plus as most of these newbies in their low 20s are so clueless as to how to keep an SD happy.
Last night a pot sd called me from sd.com, he was quite upfront about what he wanted if I were to demand an allowance of 1k a week. “Lots of head, because of a need to unwind etc” Not sure why he provided a reason.. Lol, but anyway.
I think it’s a matter of me meeting this guy and figuring out whether I am attracted to him, and if there is any chemistry between us. He keeps a fairly high profile in Australia, and has family (wife, children) overseas.
The last arrangement I walked into (who I have made a booking for, tuesday – not sure if I can make this one, as the sd in the first paragraph is taking me out for lunch) also wanted some level of intimacy and ofcourse, lots of emphasis on HEAD.
I am very open about my sexuality, and often incorporate vibrators and kinky things – but I have made it clear that if I feel uncomfortable with him upon first meeting, nothing will eventuate. (This is common sense! Ahh)
I have had other messages from pot sd’s saying that if I were to demand such an allowance, I should really be performing *more* in the bedroom? Actually I believe the exact words were “Well I want to see your toy in action, and I expect SO much head”
Again, the fascination with oral sex.
I somehow think an escort would do a better job of head…
And another thing, when I bring up the topic of using toys during sex – some of the potential sd’s have asked me the same question “so how do you use it?” Atleast the last sd I spoke to on the phone relayed that it could be used on “sensitive areas” during doggy style. Someone has a clue.
Is it really so inconceivable to use a vibrator during sex?
Here is his profile:
Describing Myself: Hi I’m an Australian living in Rome and Sydney. I retired as an investment banker and moved my family to Italy several years ago to enjoy a cultural experience. I am however recently seperated (on good terms with my wife) so looking for a fun, interesting and relaxing time with a classy SB. I have a lot of freedom to travel and most weeks I’m in London, Australia, South Africa or Asia which sounds great but can get rather tedious. I can however get diverted to nicer warm islands from time to time. I love modern art, Italian and other food, good wine, travel, snow skiing and scuba diving (technical level). I’m fun, relaxed not up myself and have a positive outlook on life. I’m looking for someone fun, sexy and fit. I’n also not unattracted by having a long term relationship and children as well if that eventuates.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I mention it briefly in my profile but I bring it up in detail in my first meet. But I have found out that it doesn’t matter what I say, every SB is fine with what I offer and agrees totally with what I am looking for. How can that be? It’s not possible for everyone to be looking for exactly what I am looking for, lol. Of course, once things progress, then each one wants something different–either more or less time than we agreed, more or less emotional commitment than what I said, etc. I feel like I am the only up-front one. Perhaps they agree to anything just to get to the money part of the arrangement. But really, SBs should think long-term. If they invest a little bit of time and thought at the onset, they will end up with many more than just one allowance payment.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
No.
Taz, you are infatuated! Hiding your profile before meeting
It’s not bad at all–I get infatuated all the time, but once I meet the infatuation tends to disappear. Yet, knowing that fact doesn’t stop me from getting infatuated time and again. Where is the SB who can keep me infatuated?
Gemini: “You ugly! You very very ugly!” ROFLMAO…I doubt you ever get these emails but I will laugh about this the rest of the night.
One velveeta-licious pick-up line just for you: Excuse me, I’d like to have kids someday, and I wanted to know how your parents created such a beautiful creature.
Well… I’m back from my sugar date. who wants a recap??
Me!
IRLSD – it feels kinda silly – but glad the blog offered support as always
I do hope that it lasts longer than yours lol..upon meeting 
I don’t ‘think’ it will be…but time will tell. As I said earlier – just enjoying it…he is the first pot that has really gotten to me like this and I have talked to so many now lol…it seems IRLSD that you do wear your heart on your sleeve…perhaps if you weren’t married you would have better luck? I know that is most likely NOT changing, just seems like all your GOOD SB’s get a little too attached?! As I said I was planning on NSA – however I will go where it takes me 
Boston- must you ask?!?!?
While I was getting ready tonight I had this summarization about Fairy Tales…
All Fairy Tales have happy endings however the cast of characters are many!
The Pied Piper – to which you must pay some hefty dues to
The Big Bad Wolf – who is always lurking in the shadows
Humpty Dumpty- this person will show up at least once during your journey and then poof
Your Fairy Godmother – she will trump them all, for there is no force stronger. So keep your child like faith in her magic
Signing off with that happy ending to the story. Sugar Hugs to Everyone! ~OC
I want to hear about your date Boston
Hi Taz, IRLSD and Taylor
WELL.. we met up…and he was good looking.. i’ve never dated anyone older than me like this. He kind of looks like Matthew McConaughey. We talked, introduced ourselves. Keep in mind we were in the middle of a crowded mall on a Saturday. We must have looked awkward. Started some small talk and started walking. He told me to go where ever I wanted to and that he’d follow. I was sort of hoping he’d take the lead since it was my first SD experience. I mostly didn’t want to seem greedy.. I’m really in a sticky situation and need some things clothes-wise so I only stuck to what I NEEDED.. especially since it was our first meeting. As it progresses, if it does, I guess I’ll ask for more. He bought me two pairs of Lucky Jeans and a pair of heeled Aldo boots I really liked. Then we got dinner casually at the Cheesecake Factory. He said he liked going to high-end places, but thought it would be easier if we were in a casual atmosphere. I agree, however I was kind of expecting something more. We got along.. I couldn’t tell if he was really feeling me.. I thought he was cute, but I’m not sure if we hit it off or not. He was playful, nudged me a few times jokingly. I’m sure he was nervous too, he said I was the first person he’s met up with in a SD/SB situation.
All in all, it was short and to the point. We hugged and I thanked him again (for like the 19th time) and he said not to worry about it, that he was happy to help. He was really sweet. I do hope we go out again.. but if not that’s alright too.
It was short.. two and a half hours we were together. We didn’t shop a lot, I didn’t want to drag him around and I tried to make it fun by showing him the jeans when I was trying them on. He asked what I was doing later tonight. I didn’t know if that was a segway into asking me to go out with him later, but I have that term paper thats due by midnight. I politely told him about the paper. When we left he hugged me and said ‘it was nice to meet you, keep in touch’. What does that mean? I guess exactly as it says. It was nice.. he bought me a few nice things that I did need and he said that he’d love to hang out again like this, go shopping or whatever. He was a really laid back guy. It was cool. Good experience.. glad I’m not put off by Splenda quite yet
Hiya Anna Molly. Staying up late over here in my time zone, to email back and forth with some pot SDs. I’m hopeless. *SO* want to end my search and settle into ‘the one.’
You know, IRLSD, a lot of sugar daddies have photos in their profiles which are way way way less attractive than they are even in their ‘up-to-date’ photos they email, and I would imagine live they could be even LESS attractive, although my experience there is limited and haven’t experienced that type of disappointment myself. So you met 30-min-girl and there was only ten minutes left on the clock and she wanted cash? Man, she is a ballsy lady.
BostonSB, I think it’s possible that he was hoping to push the relationship forward even to the point of discussing a possible arrangement and setting the stage for negotiating the terms, but might have thought you made up your midnight-deadling to end the association with him. If you want to see things continue, I’d be explicitly clear that you enjoyed his company and look forward to getting to know him better at his earliest convenience (AFTER this one little paper deadline is fulfilled).
I’m starting to think just local SDs , if this one who is abroad whom I’m smitten with doesn’t work out.
It’s not an impossible concept to sell locally, here. In fact I’ve already met one genuine SD-wannabe (never done it before) after I put an ad out, who has started spoiling me a bit already, and I am am keeping that as a fallback plan b in case the one I want, who is far away, flakes on me, although he does keep calling and it’s been over a month. If he ends up being a time waster I’m gonna be so PISSED!
But the plan b will help. Plan b (married guy) is very intelligent and hot, and so far is bending over backwards to show himself able to live up to his side of a potential arrangement with me, and taking me to dinner again tomorrow. We have fun together. It’ll be a nice consolation prize (assuming this isn’t all a big show and he would actually come through with an allowance of the size I would need, which he says he could and would) ….that is, if the single guy overseas who I am smitten with breaks my heart a bit. Keep me from eating all the ben and jerrys in the world and feeling pathetic and dumped, perhaps.
I’m so impatient to see how this all turns out, but I do know that by February first I will know how things are, one way or another. It’s just another week of limboland.
How do ya’ll stand it? The impatience of getting things cleared up , established, and ambiguity removed from your sugar life where many questions are dancing around….? I’m beside myself and don’t even wanna go to sleep, although it’s late here….
NYC SB aka Gossip Girl
says:, NYCBella and Taylor – Tuxedo Guy has another profile…wall street something or other- same exact stuff on profile and same silly email!
Went to my favorite salvation army today and found an YSL handbag, M for Missioni hang bag and, yes, I said and an Elliott Lucca bag for $2.99 and an Alice + Olivia dress for $8. I’m definitely putting the dress on ebay. But, my oh my, a YSL bag! I know I should put it on ebay, but….:(
Carp, do a cost benefit analysis of the bag and figure out if it’s worth more to you as cash or on your arm, warming your heart.
I all ready did, Taylor…I always do, and yes, the cost benefit analysis says sell the sucker. Sigh. I’ll just pet it for a bit. Who knows what treasures I’ll find next week…
Sometimes I HATE being pragmatic.
Three kinda solid leads today on SA….. one local pot SD who is constantly in touch with me and hella infatuated with me (and dropping gifts off at my door, seriously) and hopes that I’ll be his princess for the forseeable future, and then there’s the guy I’m smitten with, oh-so-far away, who hasnt’ emailed me in a day or two, hasn’t called in several days. Isn’t going to be seeing me next week as I had originally thought (but the following week is now the targeted time for our second meeting) because he’s ill…. I smell a ‘he’s just not that into me’ scenario, especially with all the logging into SA he does (constant). Or maybe the living-in-different-countries-thing is a drag, especially when there’s no shortage of local SBs, where he lives. Sigh.
supply and demand, ladies. right???? (in my best vallley girl accent, that last word
) The local guy who is killing himself to prove himself and win me as his SB has simply no other classy, intelligent, beautiful options for such an arrangement (they really aren’t done here, and there’s no simple way to locate one without approaching people IRL, should you desire one), and he’s married, and my ad sort of fell into his lap and after meeting me, I think he’s falling for me a bit and thinks that this is his one opportunity for having a life he can deal with, and is trying hard. …..For lack of other desirable options, although of course I think I’m a great option even with stiff competition! 
Other pot SD is sitting in a world where the advantage is entirely on his end. Nothing but supply floating around him, and he has the means (in every way: money, intelligence, charm, looks) to make the most of it. Much harder conquest, for me to get him pinned down.
I’m rambling. I gotta sleep….
Just as I was about to shut down my computer, one of those 3 brand new solid leads just made himself more solid in my email inbox. I like his (charming but totally appropriate) approach and the schedule he is offering in terms of exchanging relevant info online in a timely fashion, and moving things to the phone. If I wasn’t so tired, I’d have him call me now, but as it is, I told him tomorrow. I’m exhausted and have only 6 hours or so to sleep so off to bed I go……..
Boston – ‘keep intouch’ means he’s expecting a response from you. ‘what are you doing tonight (later)’ means he was hinting at a longer evening – night time entertainment. Congrats but your story didn’t really suggest you were that into him yet. Just decide your next move.
NYSB – wish I was in NY today (alas i’m not).
Taylor – if you are evaluating multiple pots on limited information you run the risk of picking the right guy (for an early milestone) but the wrong guy for a later milestone (if you know what I mean) also rejecting someone because he doesn’t seem right early on but he could be perfect later. Just a thought…. Good luck though!
ciao peeps
IRLSD – are you Realistic in disguise?
BostonSB, “keep in touch,” in my book means that I have doubts about how it went. He could have thought, as others said, that your midnight deadline was an excuse to run off or maybe it was something else. If you’re at all interested in pursuing things further, even to see if this has real potential, text him and say something to the effect of how you enjoyed the evening and hope to see him again soon.
Taylor asked, “How do ya’ll stand it? The impatience of getting things cleared up , established, and ambiguity removed from your sugar life where many questions are dancing around….?” My solution: I talk about it all day at work with my employees and I blog about it. Or, as I did on Thursday, I clear up ambiguity by eliminating its source from my sugar life. I just don’t have the patience for games. Not sure there is any other way.
Ive been having phone calls,text messages and picture exchanges with a pot sd,very good looking in his early 30s and doesnt live far from me,problem is he keeps canceling on me! Normally i would think hes just another shady guy posing as a sd, but hes the one that keeps making plans to hang out/meet. I really don’t get it, last time he cancelled i hung up on him and he texted me back right away saying how sorry he was, and i asked him “is this some sort of a game to you? cause its not funny” he apologized again and that he’ll make it up to me, but im not taking him to seriously anymore.. any ideas anyone??
I can’t believe what some people put as a profile heading “seeking slut” that actually kind of got to me its the same as “seeking meat” because obviously he’s not paying for innocent conversation or anything on those lines. If this is what they are truely seeking then they should pay an escort or someone more familiar with a sex arrangement. As im sure most of the SB’s on this site would feel greatly uneasy about this.
I also received an email and read his profile from australia about two days ago that made me want to meet the guy just to slap him.
“I want to find a woman who knows her place in the kitchen and in the bedroom, mute woman would be great or someone submissive” talk about “power trip” im sorry im going to sound semi feministic here but I will follow rules to an arrangement, but there’s no way id ever conform to this.
aussie sb: yuck, on both the headlines and the guy who wants a mute, submissive woman.
Speaking of submissive, it might be great to find a submissive sd. It’s kind of intriguing to think of role reversal with a powerful man.
Hello everyone!!
I just want everyone to know that Elegant Sugar is absolutely beautiful and incredibly sweet! It was so great to meet another blogger locally!
I think her ’sugar is showing’
Ahhh the Cowardly Lion… too funny but I think he would be best decribed by Elegant.
And yes… I tend to be the listner
But I had a great time… we did talk the night away!
NYCSB and NYC Bella – Elegant and I also dicovered we had a couple of pots in common…although one was met in IRL by her where as I had met him through another site.
NYC Meetup – Glad everyone had such a wonderful time!
TAZ – Wish you all the best with this pot.. I don’t think it is silly to hide your profile…I’ve done the same thing.
OC – Glad to hear that things are going so well for you and I hope his recovering is coming along well.
Holy cow. Just caught up on reading some earlier posts. TMI
Uncommon SB- that would be wonderful I you could find a man like that,
And at least he doesn’t have a god complex about himself!
IRLSD : Hasn’t it been scientifically proven through fMRI that infatuation can only last up to 18 months at the most? Well, except for the anomaly of the couple who were still infatuated after 25 years. (Holy Cow!) Are you getting bored or are the SBs? Just curious…
Boston: “Keep in touch.” Sounds like he wants to take it further and trying to feel you out. Especially if he is new to this. Perhaps this is an opportunity for you to take the lead. (If you’re comfortable with it and feel you could be into him.)
Taylor: Are you looking for a SB/SD arrangement or LTR? Just questioning because of your “break my heart” comment and the fact that it bothers you that he logs into his account so much. It sounds like as far as a SB/SD arrangement, you would be happy with the local guy who is willing to bend over backwards for you and you could potentially be in a real arrangement as soon as next week. (Unless I’m reading wrong…)
San Diego sb– Even if you do meet, there is a tone now set.
Taylor- Don’t be so much like me. Being smitten has gotten me nowhere. Local SD is hot and charming and local. It sounds like you’ve already got him in the bag. Your local SD knows what he wants (YOU) and he is going after it. Overseas guy is too hansome, charming, and rich for his own good and he knows he can have you, but won’t seal the deal. You said so yourself. It sounds like you are ready for the local SD.
IRLSD– I’m exhausted from trying to imagine living vicariously through you
As for how the blog question, as to how I let potSD’s know what level of emotional involvement I am looking for. I don’t say NSA. It actually has been brought up by the pots that have contacted me that something more serious could emerge from this, and that just blows my mind. A man wants to support me financially and then marry me? Weird. Also, it would be difficult for me to keep the secret of where we met. I’m late 30’s and I do love dating men 6-13 years older, so it would not be out of the question on my end. I’d be a great wife for a rich guy, but I have no designs on trying to land one this way. I want to be my independent self again first.
“Holy cow. Just caught up on reading some earlier posts. TMI
Ha ha ha ha!! UncommonSB – perhaps this is why this site was blocked “due to unsuitable content” in three of the five airports I was in this week!! Too funny.
Hi Photogirl!!! You are so sweet!!! I think the cowardly lion story can only be told in person. You know how animated I can be. Ha ha! Text wouldn’t do justice to how I would want to tell the story. He probably dropped my business card as he stumbled back inside anyway. Hopefully he was cabbing it. Are we going to hang out with him and his friends for the Vikings game?? He was a bit inebriated and probably doesn’t even remember talking with us outside. Ha!
Elegant: yes. no doubt that a few key words have been triggered from time to time!
Sounds like you all had great conversation and an overall lovely time. Good stuff, warm fuzzies.
I’m still trying to decide if I will make it to the CA meet. Who is going at this point anyway?
Photogirl: I am having quiet family time with my brother tonight (he is my best friend) and we are in a local bookstore being nerds (reading, researching, etc) and I just started laughing hysterically and couldn’t stop. Guess what I was thinking about? One hint: BUTTER. Oh, my sides are killing me now and I can’t even tell my brother why!
I’m just finishing my paper now, I’ll text him once I finish and let me know that I had a wonderful time and hope to see him again.. i don’t know what I would do without you ladies sometimes
let him*
Boston – I agree… the text(or email) is a good idea. Some of the SDs here have even said themselves they need to be ‘hit over the head’ sometimes to know you are interested in them!
Elegant – Oh my…. I have laughed several times over BUTTER….
NYC SB – You know what we are referring to if you recall the email I sent you a month or so back where you told me to make lemonade out of that situation…and I just couldn’t that time around!
Sorry… don’t mean to leave anyone in the dark or be secretive.
Now that the weather is warming up in these parts… would anyone be interested in a FL meet? I know a few of the SBs have said they have family in this area… not sure about the men though.
Uncommon SB– I would like to be there SD or no SD.
RE: Blog topic of profile headlines:
The Good: “Too Young to be Doing This, but Not too Rich to.”
The Bad: from another site
“Rich and Well Hung” or “Let’s Get This Party Started”
if I may toot my own horn, mine is “Your TARP $$, Finally Well Spent”
I know…don’t mean to leave any of you in the dark. It is a story to be told in person. Let’s have a FL meet and we can all share our funny stories in person!
What about this one: “Rich, Old, Ugly seeks Poor, Young, Pretty.”
Photo girl – lol I had a different name for him… Butter T….
Just finished dinner with SD… poor guy couldnt even stay up through dinner… so we decided to watch a movie… and umm he is passed out on the couch of his hotel … He mumbled something like “im sorry I will come up next weekend again and be more social”
Elegant – we should plan a Miami meet up… I have an awesome sugar friend there… even if its just the 4 of us we will have a blast
NYC SB: I wonder if we have the same Sugar Friend in Miami? Does he have a place in NYC too? I don’t have an arrangement with him, but we met through SA and have become great friends. I have gone to Miami a couple of times just to hang out with him and his friends; they are tons of fun. He said I could come down and stay anytime and bring friends. Great spot on the beach!
I also have great friends IRL from Miami so it’s a place I visit often. Let’s do it!
My Miami sugar friend is a girl… sounds like a party
Oh sweet, that was a fun read through the sugar blog! Very entertaining.
I think it was VA SB said – For me, sometimes silence is the best way to say “no thank you”. If someone is interested they will write back. If not, then they won’t – and that’s fine. I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and I get that.
AGREED. I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea either, so sometimes silence is the best way to go.
I am SO GLAD someone included the “Rich Doc looking for kinky group of girls” under the CON list. I always wonder when I see that if I’m supposed to find a group of kinky girls out of my pool of friends and pimp them out for him…. lol
Um lets see… OC’s comment about some NSA arrangements having that “bit of emptiness”…. I can see that being a very real pitfall of an arrangement and something I would like to avoid at all costs. But I don’t think it is something that you can winnow out on the first few dates, but that is something that takes some time to figure out.
NYC SB /Gossip Girl – Just makes me want to download the newest episode of Gossip Girl like no one’s business.
Hello all! Long night at work! Glad to be home with my sugar fam!
OH. Flo Rida- LOLOLOLOL ROFLMAO @ your comment to IRL SD. That totally made my night.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
By asking questions and in my profile (pretty clear). I have found it common for profiles to contain contrary to the involvement a person is seeking.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
Arrangement virgin
I’d like to turn the whole world on
If you have the $ I serve the rest!
Is anyone else annoyed when they receive a letter from a pot SD or SB just dripping with misspellings and grammatical errors? I just received another one that could have easily been written by a THIRD GRADER! I mean, I’m not looking for Einstein I.Q. here, (though I must admit, I am highly attracted to intelligent men), but how does a man who constructs such a poorly written letter supposedly run a multimillion dollar company? I mean, REALLY???
Allll L: Not sure if it’s the same SB, but one of my pot SDs told me he was contacted by “Arranged Virgin” – she asked him to place a bid on her virginity! Egads.
Gemi – alas although I score marks for entertainment value I didn’t get a rise out of IRLSD. Mischievous me.
IRLSD aka Realistic – mea culpa you have my humble obeisances. Also free country so knock yourself out!
ElegantSugar – SD explained to me that promotions are based on a combination of personal case (skills), political case (votes) and business case (results). Drive and luck can feed into results. In terms of personal case EQ (Goleman) is more important than writing skills (say 90 percent of business communication is non-written). In political case that’s schmoozing. Finally as Alan Ball (English world cup winning footballer) said to me ‘I don’t believe in luck but I believe that you need it’. Apologies if this is over-analytical.
Anyone still around??!
I am here Taz……lol seems like I missed a whole lot
LMFAO – indeed! How are you Yaz?
LMFAOOOOO I just read something that made me spill my drink all over myself!!! Ha Gotta love this blog! Cant believe this! ROFLMAO
Im good Taz! Just sitting here cracking up
How’s your man Anderson doing??
Lol I think he is still in Haiti!
The video showed one of the guys slowly dying on the side of the road. Nobody came to help him out……until his poor mother got there, saw her dead son and started crying…….Smh
Wish I could go over there and help out too! I watched a video this morning and it showed haitian police officers shooting two guys over a bag of rice….They later realized that the guys weren’t even looters…TRAGIC!
Flo: Please, no apologies. I welcome and embrace an analytic mind. Certainly appreciate your business analogy. SD has probably also then mentioned the sensitive line in business. I guess horrible written communication would be that line for me. It doesn’t welcome a favorable response from me at all. This response could very well be known as the threat-rigidity response (Staw, Sandelands, & Dutton, 1981; Weick,1993). When individuals are threatened by certain situations they encounter or are given uncomfortable information, or when uncertainty is created, they tend to become rigid. Can I get over that? Probably not. I know what I like and don’t like. As far as luck, the smartest man I’ve ever known used to say, “Luck has a way of favoring those who don’t depend on it.”
Yaz – sooo sad
I would love to be able to help in some way…
Hi Elegant
Elegant – the harder I work the luckier I get. In terms of rigidity response – don’t rationalize the irrational. Btw I apologize because I promised OC I would not cause trouble, but if you’ve read my previous blogs way back in the day, I’m a tiny bit crazy, some of the time. Got to keep taking those meds.
Yaz and Taz – I am glad that you are both amused, at what pray tell?
I wish I could sleep in this town.
Cheerio!
Flo~ I love you
I think I gotta go take my meds too lmao
Hi Yaz and Taz! I can’t sleep either and have been writing all day long to meet article deadlines. Can’t seem to stay away from this blog either!
Yaz: As long as that laughter doesn’t result in you spewing a half-eaten, soggy crouton into someone’s glass of wine, laugh away!
Flo: I love the way you communicate. I relish in the dryness of your comments; they often make me laugh as I can sense the quick wit, wisdom and humor in them. Hey, if I worked at Hertz…I would be downing the meds myself! Lots of mundane work in those car rental places.
Yaz and Taz – alas the situation in Haiti is tragic. I know someone who has lost some cousins (confirmed dead) his immediate family drove to Costa Rica(?) and flew to him in Miami. In these situations the immediate need is water, food and shelter and lastly law & order. These are best provided initially by governmental organizations (aka army). The second wave of relief is then provided by organizations such as Red Cross – Salvation army and these organizations have trained volunteers but need money. If you wish – can donate to second wave relief efforts. SD is sending $30k (frankly he could send more but it’s his decision).
On a similar note, bad joke time. We were sitting at a charity table and someone says ‘let’s play a game and talk about high’s for the year’ so we all mention our high points, then someone said ‘ok let’s talk about low points’ I said ‘I had a bad break up’ then Petra Nemcova said ‘I lost my fiance, broke my hip and spent 6 hours clinging naked to a palm tree during the tsunami and spent 8 weeks re-habbing.’ BAD game to play. Btw Petra’s a darling and set up Happy Hearts Fund because of her experience.
Still working hard at Hertz!
Evening sugs…just finished up w/private party. Now I get to call it a night. Sounds like everyone’s having a nice, sweet weekend. My newest pot (pot #5) is looking to meet up again. And things are very promising. Pot #3 is still out of the country…though I’m deciding to take him off the pot list and just keep him around for a travel companion and friendly talk. And pot #4 has just dropped of the planet. (Go figure)
Taz and Yaz~I keep getting you two confused…but it’s very amusing none the less.
Well, I’m gonna go pass out now.
Sweet dreams, all.
ROFLMAO…Flo I have missed you so!
Nite NYCBella – sugar dreams to you
Elegant~ No Im enjoying my drink by myself
And yes I love Flo’s sense of humor. She has masterized the art of expressing her feelings in a straight-forward, dry, witty, dont-care-if you-don’t-like-it, yet totally hilarious way.
Yaz – moir? Little ole moir? And I didn’t think I was crushworthy? Aw shucks, I love you too darling!
Petra Nemcova…now that’s a name I’ve heard TWICE in this one week. A pot SD of mine was just telling me a story about her. Weird coincidence.
G’night, NYCBella!
Flo~ Are you an ex-model??
Petra Nemcova is gorgeous……She must be fun to hang out with!
Yaz – Petra has a perfect and I mean perfect figure and lovely skin. Perfect for runway and for print. Just the right amount of curves and height. I was minor league in comparison. Yes she’s a darling and she does spend a lot of time on Happy Hearts, less so recently though. Bruce Willis was on her board and Penelope Cruz turned up to a number of events. Penelope is gorg! stunningly pretty! Believe it or not but some people think i’m stupid, can’t understand why.
Btw I once referred to Gemi as Ms. Crushworthy and the Fair Lady from Baltimore but it wasn’t as funny because she just said awww shucks. It could have been much funnier. Maybe I should switch jobs to being a script writer for 30 Rock – I love Tina Fey!
ciao peeps
hey elegant sugar i love reading what you have to say (and thank you sb ndoor)
so i was wondering if you can give some kind of advice on what i wrote earlier
“Ive been having phone calls,text messages and picture exchanges with a pot sd,very good looking in his early 30s and doesnt live far from me,problem is he keeps canceling on me! Normally i would think hes just another shady guy posing as a sd, but hes the one that keeps making plans to hang out/meet. I really don’t get it, last time he cancelled i hung up on him and he texted me back right away saying how sorry he was, and i asked him “is this some sort of a game to you? cause its not funny” he apologized again and that he’ll make it up to me, but im not taking him to seriously anymore.. any ideas anyone??”
SanDiego sb: I personally wouldn’t waste anymore time with a 30-something pot SD who keeps canceling plans. Of course, I don’t know the story in its entirety, such as all the reasons he canceled and whether or not they appear legit to you. As long as you are continuing your search and communicating with other pots, it would be fine to see if he finally follows-through (if you really like the guy). But don’t keep yourself from meeting someone else because of his seemingly empty promises to “make it up to you.”
thank you ES, your a big help
=]
No problem, SD sb!
Yay! Finished my last article…signed, sealed and delivered to the publisher. This tired, over-worked and over-blogged SB is calling it a NIGHT! FINALLY. I lived on this blog today, but it got me through those writer’s block moments.
Good night, Sugars!
xoxo,
ES
ElegantSugar :
Arranged virgin is in NY. A bid on her virginity….oh so hilarious!
Thanks, have a great night as well.
Not a ltr, per say, but I want the possibilities of strings becoming attached. I want to think it’s someone I could maybe see myself with, and who knows what happens down the road…. I don’t mean I am entirely set on a pretty woman fantasy, but…. I’m a romantic and wouldn’t mind if that happened someday. This year, I want an arrangement. But next year, or the following…. If the arrangement turns into a ltr, then… Great.
I haven’t caught up on the blog at all but I just wanted to say I had SOOOO much fun tonight for our DC meet up
ESB & VA we definitely have to have a reunion 
the food was delish and the conversation & friendship were even better 
(Also all of the food I ate I definitely feel like a looooooong run is in due tomorrow – the chocolate was insanely good).
If anyone wants to meet up again for our DC meet please get in touch =)
Wow.. as I was typing out a blog entry I heard a loud bang outside and turned out it was a hit and run (hit like 4 cars across the street, lost their tire and took off, sparks flying) and had to call the police and give a report.. now writing notes to leave on the cars of people who didn’t come out whose cars got hit so they have the info. So much for sleeping!!! Guess I’ll just post what I typed so far and catch up later!
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So far behind on the blog again.. I watched some show about 2012 conspiracies last night and have been researching stuff about it all day and got carried away and haven’t read the blog until now.
I just got an email from a pot who wants to worship my feet. WTF. Seriously. I knew it was a red flag to get any messages at 3am, but I replied anyway (before foot worship came up). All I want is to go on ONE pot date with a SANE and classy pot SD (fellow bloggers out of sympathy do not count
). I don’t even care if I see him after that (though that would be phenominal! 
) I just want to feel like this site isn’t hopeless (or simply a crazy magnet) for me! haha
Elegant — OMG bacon sandwiches cure hangovers?! I LOVE bacon. I kinda want to go drink just to try it out and have an excuse to eat that much bacon!
PS — I’m salivating about your delicious salmon!! I love salmon!
BostonSB — Congrats on the pot date! I agree with the change of waredrobe as a backup plan (though my advice is way too late anyway!)
Speaking of fairy godmothers….. Sheesh this local pot is going out of his way to impress me. He knows I have a day trip to make today, and that the train fare is very pricey (around a hundred), so he ordered it for me online and had the confirmation sent to my phone via text message. So sweet! Now I don’t have to stand in line or even go to into the station at all, just straight to the platform and onto the train. Lovely surprise. He also is spending the afternoon, while I’m away, preparing for this evening and the gourmet dinner he’s going to cook in my kitchen. If’ll be shopping for high-end kitchen equipment that I don’t have, for me, plus stocking my fridge and pantry with extravagant delicacies, if I understand correctly. Pretty nice treatment. Plus all the long, long emails and constant text messages. His wife is out of town until tomorrow, so he’s in a mad rush for quality bonding time to solidify things with me, before she gets back and we have to shift to daytime meets. He’s so into me, I actually worry that he’ll fall in love and his family will break up as an indirect result.
not interested in seeing that potential scenario unfold. I have no ltr interests in him, but he keeps telling me that I’ll fall in love with him. But this sort of treatment could get addicting. 
Good Morining Everyone!! Hope y’all slept well
sb-emy — IMO, I feel like maybe you shouldn’t be bringing up the idea of “toys” before you’re in an arrangement, and especially before meeting a pot. The fact that you talk about things like that may lead the pot to think you’re more of an escort type of girl, which is probably why they feel comfortable talking to you like one (i.e. the head comments). I am in no way saying you are an escort, just suggesting that you might want to censor your profile/emails from some things so you don’t continue to get those types of responses.
BostonSB — Glad to hear your pot date went well and you didn’t need the change of clothes afterall! I agree that you should follow up with him to show your interest, so guys just don’t get it unless they’re told flat out! Hopefully you hear from him again soon!
Elegant — I so agree with the grammar/spelling. I don’t even reply to those types of emails.
Taylor — I LOVE kitchen appliances!!! I hope your dinner is awesome!
Good morning everyone!
Taylor~ Where are you from? you keep saying that there are no SDs where you are from… just curious!
Oh and someone asked me up there what I meant by “a SD only wanting to date pretty girls”…. I meant that I think he just wants to date pretty girls on the side but not actually be a SD. Like he’s just a pretty girl seeker…but not here for an arrangement. We’ve been talking for a few weeks, and he’s all sweet endearments in the emails but its all so fake-feeling to me.
So since he’s all “I wants to meet you!!!”, I told him I need a better idea of when and where he’d like to meet. His response: “mid-day” and “Starbucks”.
Yeaaaah….I’m not really a Starbucks kind of girl.
And due to Glamazon’s comment awhile back, suddenly I don’t think he’s as “separated” as he claims to be. Mid-day is the best time for him? What does that say about our future possible SD/SB arrangement? I don’t want to be some guy’s f-buddy on his lunch break. Yuck.
:-\ I think I might be taking a break from this all if I don’t find a SD by the end of Feb. Perhaps it is just not meant to be for me.
Morning, AM and Cali.
Taylor~Sounds like you have a fun evening ahead. Just take it one day at a time with no expectations or over analyzing of where it could go and enjoy the time together. That way you’ll be able to live in the moment and just have fun. Then you won’t necessarily get caught up in “emotions” and can decide with a clear and objective mind if and when the time is right for you both to move on. (Assuming worst cast scenarios.)
SanDiego~just saw your situation and since it’s a Sunday morning and the only thing I’m doing is checking this blog and watching a Law & Order marathon on TNT, I felt like commenting.
Men can be flakes. He sounds like he’s either unable to get up the nerve to meet with you (and who wants someone that can’t even follow through with plans…where can that possibly go?), or he’s getting off on jerking you around. Either way, ignore his calls, block his number and look to investing time in dealing with other pots. Any man worth your time would not treat you like that. “Next!”
Elegant/Cali~While I will say that bad grammar or poor spelling initially make a less than peachy first impression, my father, uncles and their male family friends I grew up around, were successful businessmen/politicians and they were horrible spellers (it’s why they have personal assistants, speech writers, and other people who often taking their dictations). So, while it irks me (looking at it from a writers perspective), I know that it’s not necessarily a sign of a lack of education, ignorance or undesirability. Unless there’s blatant vulgarity, I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Gemi~Did he say whether or not panties were optional? lol
NYC Bella- lol! I swear, if I ever hear anyone say they want to meet at Starbucks, in my head I’ll add on “with or without panties?” kind of like people tag on “in bed” to fortune cookies fortunes.
Yeah, it’s changed my entire outlook on Starbucks. Everytime I walk past one now (and they’re pretty much on every other corner in NY), I get tickled just thinking of that story. I’m never gonna be able to order a caramel machiato with a straight face again.
Hiya alll…
While the weekend was off to a bumpy start it turned out to be a nice and relaxing time…SD just left….He is notorious for waking up at 5am…so I already had breakfast and am at the comfort of my own place… Anywhoo, recap time: Yesterday we had a lovely lunch at Junior’s cheesecake (across his hotel) and then walked around NYC did some light shopping (couldnt find anything), talked markets and had a fun time. He bought be flowers from the street vendors… yes not the most romatic gesture ever but it has been forever since I have gotten flowers. We went to dinner at Sushi of Gary… then back to the room where we attempted to watch a movie and he promptly passed out …this morning he woke up sooo early and ordered room service, woke me up and we had a fun breakfast. I love his tiny laptop (not a reference to his package) and he told me I could have it… hahaha… he called his jet service to confirm his flight out… sugar dusted me and told me he will return next week… so possible dilemma for me…
Taylor – although an SD might fall/become infatuated with his SB it doesnt mean he would leave his wife… actually the chances of that happening are slim to none… just talk to any of the married SDs on the blog. He may say “I will divorce her for you” but trust me that these words rarely ever turn into actions.
Flo – Although my story is super similar to NYC SB’s I am NOT her lol
NYC Bella – I’d like a grande frappacino with extra whipped cream, sprinkles, oh and can you make that sans panties please?
Gemi~I was thinking of having mine on the side…just in case I want the option of putting them on or simply twirling them around on my finger if I’m bored.
Sandiegosb – I too had a pot who was in his 30’s, great looking, super fun to talk to… he kept on making plans and then cancelling them… other times not even confirming them… then apologizing profusely after the fact. Sometimes he would even send me gifts (he had a foot fetish so lots of shoes were sent) in form of an apology. Long story short… After talking to him for a year I haven’t met him…
resume your search and put him on the back burner… if he comes through great if he doesnt nothing lost
Flo – I am still not NYC SB
GG~Wow! You and NYC SB both have such coincidental lives. It’s a wonder you haven’t crossed paths or anything.
Sounds like you did have a great weekend. Yay! Sugar dustings (I haven’t heard that one before but it’s cute!). So what’s the dilemma?
Soo tired. Now that I’m pretty much nocturnal, I must catch some ZZZ’s! A pot emailed me a bit ago and he seems very nice (lives in my home state back east). I told him I’m going to nap because I’m tired from fighting crime all night (true story!). I’m anxious to see his reply, hopefully my candidness doesn’t scare him off.
NYC Bella- lolol @ twirling them on your finger. teehee!
Gossip Girl – Want to forward your shoe fetish guy to me? He can cancel and cancel and send me shoes too! I can deal with that!
SanDiegoSB – I too had a guy who was young and hot(ish) and who constantly would start to make plans to see me, and then out of the blue would have to jet set off to somewhere else and couldn’t make it! I decided that he was either a total fake or he wasn’t interested, and stopped emailing him. I also had another pot SD who canceled on my 3 times. We eventually met up, but I was disinclined to accept his arrangement offer based on how many times he had already cancelled on me….I didn’t want to be in a SD/SB arrangement where I was constantly getting stood up.
Dilemma is NYSE is flying in Thursday night (which is a broke bf night) and staying till Sunday and I made plans to see NYC SD Friday night (but thats not an issue as NYSE has a work dinner in the city)
Juggling is tough work but I can make it happen lol
Gemi – I think mine was an old man posing to be a young one… he has deleted his account since… or created a new one with pictures of another stud
GG~Ah…I gotcha now. Well, that’s the problem with being in high demand. I’m sure you’ll make it happen flawlessly. Now remind me, NYSE is the GD, right?`
SanDiego SB, I don’t do well with SBs who cancel mostly because it takes some planning on my part to block time to meet with an SB and cancelling, especially at the last minute, is pretty disrespectful. That having been said, the 30 minute SB stood me up twice (only time I’ve ever been stood up) with totally BS excuses that boiled down to her not having a cell phone. So the third time I told her that she would have to come to my place, as I just am not dumb enough to go somewhere and wait to see if she’s show up.
In my experience, if someone cancels at the beginning if a relationship or does not live up to her promises at the beginning, it will only get worse into the relationship. So unless you want a one-way relationship, it’s the best time to run.
Another thing is that when I essentially pay someone for her time, I feel more entitled. If someone has a full-time job that pays her $2000/month and she is never late for that, why should she be late to a twice a week date that pays her more than twice what she makes at her job?
Hey Sugar Family!
Well, I have to say that I had SO much fun last night with DC SB and ESB…As DC said above, the food and drinks were great and conversation was even better. We laughed, joked, gave and received advice, and basically just had a fun night out hanging with new friends. I’m so glad I now have two new friends in my area that I can share the ups and downs of the SugarLife with (in addition to all my blog friends).
We will definitely need to do that again…Gail and MDsb – you ladies have to definitely join us next time.
Oh, and the desserts were soooo yummy – I’ll definitely be doing a double workout today!
Well, I’m off to meet my SD – as I mentioned on the blog a few days ago, he’s becoming very clingy and questioning (which I’m not cool with). We (me, DC, and ESB) think he’s looking for a dedicated girlfrend/ltr and has unfortunately picked me for that role. So, I’m going to have a long talk with him today when we meet. It’s unfortunate, because he’s a really nice guy, but I DON’T DO drama….so, if that’s the way we’re headed, then I’ll need to pull back and let this sugar relationship go. (Big Sigh……)
I’ll give everyone an update later. Ciao!
Taylor, I agree with Gossip Girl. I fell in love with my IRL SB and gave thought to leaving my family for her (I never told her I would), but it never happened and I now know that even if I have feelings for an SB, it won’t at all mean that we’ll be together forever. I tell that to SBs I meet so they are absolutely clear that I am not looking for a new wife at all.
Cali SB, I agree with you—there is no need for comments on toys in a profile. Overly sexual profiles will attract the wrong crowd.
Gemini, I meet people in the afternoons because when you’re married it’s harder to get away in the evenings, plus much harder to explain yourself if you do get caught having dinner with someone. Granted, I have dinner with SBs all the time, but I know that it’s not a good long-term policy to keep doing that. I’ve also done Starbucks for first meets, but it’s not my favorite place, so now I pick nicer cafes for afternoon first meets and upscale hotel restaurants for dinner first meets (hotel restaurants tend to have more out of town visitors than the local crowd). I do realize that some SBs are looking for someone to take them on fancy dates all the time and to show them off around town, but that won’t work for me since I’m married. Plus, it takes a very special SB to be show-offable—someone like you, I’m sure. But a lot of young attractive SBs are just not socially presentable because of the way they dress and carry themselves in public.
IRLSD – Hope you don’t mind the question, but if you don’t like women who cancel, then why did you keep on chatting with 30-minute SB? If she cancelled twice, then that was probably a good sign that she would not be a good fit for you.
Maybe she was super HOT so you thought to give her a final chance….but then she was late to the meeting by 20 minutes. Which seems quite rude. I don’t know, it just seems like you keep going after the same women and getting the same bad results. Do you think you should maybe reconsider the type of SB you’re going after?
I just wonder about these things….I hope you find the perfect SB for you, but the ones coming your way seem like serious Duds…..
Gemini said, “but I was disinclined to accept his arrangement offer based on how many times he had already cancelled on me.” Now I pose this question: Suppose an SD pays an SB $4000/month to meet him twice a week, which comes to like 8 meets/month and he cancels three-quarters of the time, which means he ends up meeting the SB twice a month. From the SB’s perspective, that is not as bad as it is from the SD’s perspective if the SB cancels as much because from the SB’s perspective, she ends up making $2000/meet as opposed to the agreed upon $500/meet; from the SD’s perspective, he is now paying 4 times as much per meet. Unless the SB is smitten or truly looks forward to her time with him (which is often enough the case), is it really a problem to have an allowance-paying SD cancel?
Gossip Girl – you’re an imposter! a charlatan – what have you done with NYC – SB? You’ve kidnapped her! Shock, horror.
NYCBella and Gemi – I just had a gross gross thought of what can be worse than Starbucks sans panties and at the risk of grossing everyone out it’s ……. no sorry I can’t repeat it ……ewww ewww ewww. Note to self, must take meds more often.
Gemi – if you can’t find a SD puhleeez! We should all give up and move to a monastery (spelling).
VA SB, you’re right. Her pics were pretty attractive, and after the first stand-up I only offered to meet her when it was easy for me. But since she went from an 8 in her pics to a 6 IRL, her schedule is a complete deal-breaker. Now if she was a 9, I’d tolerate it. Just reality.
Let me put it another way, an SB is much more likely to overlook things with an SD who reliably pays 10,000/month than with one who is offering 1,000/month, so I am similarly willing to overlook more for a 10 than a 1.
Flo Rida said, “Gemi – if you can’t find a SD puhleeez! We should all give up and move to a monastery (spelling).” First, I totally agree–I just don’t see how Gemini has trouble finding any SD she wants. Second, if you blog SBs ever do move to a monastery, can I move there too, lol?
IRLSD aka Realistic in disguise – it’s because (some) women are emotional and do not think of this as a crunch the numbers – $ per meet exercise. Those women also prep for dates and finally may even ENJOY be EXCITED to meet SD. Now other women might be the complete opposite of what i’ve just said…..
A monastery of all the blog SDs and IRLSD as Head Monk. Now that is something I would pay to see.
I meant “blog SBs” (obvi)
Flo~ girl… you totally Rock!!!! lol
NYGent said “A monastery of all the blog SBs and IRLSD as Head Monk. Now that is something I would pay to see.”
LMAO
Flo~Here, here! That is very true. The difference between an SB and an escort so perfectly summed up. Though we emotional creatures could use occasional reminders to not always think with our hearts. But, you have to tell! I’m now trying to think what could be worse than a meet in Starbucks sans unmentionables…hmmm…the West 4th Street station in a trench coat? (Oh, and flipflops!)
NYC Bella – only because it’s you asking – HEALTH WARNING – THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS WORDS OF A GRAPHIC NATURE – AVERT EYES NOW – ‘darling let’s meet at Starbucks for 30 mins sans panties but please bring lubricant’….. Sorry for grossing out the blog.
Very interesting comments this morning…
I will refrain from commenting
YAZ – I am right there with you! Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything!
Flo Rida, I agree completely, hence why I said, “Unless the SB is smitten or truly looks forward to her time with him…” But objectively speaking, it’s worse if the SB cancels.
Photogirl~
One would think the sugar bowl is only made up of adults and people who are done playing silly high school games but it never seizes to amaze me! lmao
Off to the gym!!!
Hope EVERYONE has a great day!
Flo~ I just HAVE to meet you!
I never stop learning from you!
Aurevoir!
Real–I’m sorry, I mean IRL SD –
Flo said it very well. I will elaborate on the situation. He wasn’t offering an allowance…it was pay per meet, something I’m not comfortable with in the first place, despite the high amount he set it at. There was no “base allowance” that would make it “dealable” if he couldn’t make a meeting here and there. But aside from all that…. WHY in the world would I want to be in a SD/SB arrangement/relationship where I constantly got stood up? How does that work out well for me? My self-esteem would take a beating at every cancellation, and that is an emotional roller coaster ride I have no interest on being on. And further more, and it shows an extreme lack of respect for the other person to always be canceling on them. I would want a SD who respected me far more than that. Its not *just* about the $, it is far far more than that.
…gets off soapbox.
Ok ladies and gents! Off I got doing errands! Hope everyone is having a fun weekend, hopefully everyone has their own little *dusting* of sugar in the future!
(Gossip Girl- I liike that term, dusting of sugar, sounds so delicious!)
Flo~only lube? lol
Sounds like you should put this guy in touch with Realistic’s (Oops, I mean IRL SD’s) 10-Minute Wonder…
Ooh! GG/Muse~I think he’s another one who’d be good for the speed sugar connect! (Lube optional, of course)
Yaz – if you go to the JFK Hertz drop off area, generally on weekdays, I work 6am -6pm shift. I’m the one with the unflattering ski jacket and bobble hat. Other than that i’m 5ft 9 and a half inches tall, aneroxic looking, flat chested, not that pretty and yes I was born in Asia but I didn’t say I was of asian ethnicity. Let’s meet!
Flo – you just described every model on the DVF runway at Bryant park during Fashion Week Fall 2009 last February. So Hertz is where they go to work off-season. Well MBFW is only a few weeks away so that means a break from the Hertz counter. Whoopi.
Hey all. Busy day. Just stopped in to catch up! Out the door now.
BTW, For clarification…I don’t expect perfect spelling or a completely eloquently written letter. The sample below is what I cannot tolerate:
” HI. MY NAME IS __________. WOW. U R HOT. I WANT 2 MEET U. I WANT TO SPOIL U RTTN. I AM SOME1 WHO CAN MAKE U HAPPY. BUY U WHATEVR U WANT. PURSES. SHOEES. I CAN TAKE U TO A FANCEY DINNER. U R THE GIRL I WANT TO RIDE IN MY FERRARI. I WANT TO TRAVEL THE WORLD WITH U BY MY SIDE. I THINK WE SHOULD MEET SOON. I CAN FLY U HERE OR GO TO YOUR CITEY. I WANT U TO BE MY PRINCES. PLZ CALL ME AT UR CONVIENENZE. MY NUMER IS ***-***-****. PLZ CALL SOON!!!!”
…………and the Sugar Gods up above listened! Just received a wonderful, well-written, engaging, intriguing letter from someone who appears to be a man (not a BOY) and now will take the 10 minutes (I barely have today) to write a sweet response. (Even though he is 2,000+ miles away…)
Ciao.
ElegantSugar~ You know there is a LA meet in Feb… you should come lol… we would have a blast!
Elegant – there’s no such thing as the perfect man only perfect handbags, pashminas, cocktail dresses, pearls, diamond earrings and shoes. My model agency was Ford – which one was yours?
IRLSD – yes please – of course you’ll have to take a vow of celibacy – what fun, slumber parties, pillow fights, SBs in lingerie, coming out of the steam room sans panties of course.
Elegant~ok…seeing where the miscommunication went awry…he’s been texting waaaaayyy too much. haha Good luck with Mr. 2000.
Beach_girl: please give me the dates! I have fabulous friends in LA I can crash with. My February schedule is a little full though, but if it is just a weekend perhaps I can make it work.
FLO: Small, small world. I was also with Ford – Miami. Also with UBER (small agency that I think no longer exists) and also a local agency I won’t mention because they were pretty worthless. But this was quite a while ago. Worked mostly as a fit model and print. Hung up that hat, but currently very involved in the world still on another level. Will you be at MBFW in Feb? Almost made it to Milan for Men’s, but couldn’t make it. My friend was sending me photos backstage at John Galliano while I was stuck in hell at Las Vegas airport just to rub it in my face!
ElegantSugar~ the 25th- 26th I think… Would BE awesome!
Thanks, NYCBella. I get a TON of those Textie McGees. Geesh. I just wrote Mr. 2000 back. Very excited about meeting pot #3 this week!! We haven’t talked all weekend (we talk all throughout the week), but he sent me a text last night letting me know he was thinking of me. Made me smile because I was thinking of him too, but didn’t want to text. If they are married, I certainly respect their weekends and have a ‘no contact’ policy unless they contact me first.
Ok, I am running waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay late now. I need to join SBA! (Sugar Blog Anonymous…)
How do I get your email addresses? Beach_girl: Could I get your email from photogirl or do I need to request it from Stephan or OcSugarbaby? Still not sure how all this works. I’ve never been so surreptitious…
ElegantSugar~ Photo has my email, she can give it to you! Yes , do NOT put you email on the blog… god knows i did, and got a stalker!
Elegant – sorry i’m not involved with MBFW. I am involved with Seven Bar and will probably commit to Lingerie New York in Feb 2010 – HATE Cipriani. I won’t runway though as i’m an old hag now. Should be a good night Lingerie Miami (similar event in Miami was cool). PS don’t you know runway and print models don’t get along – don’t get me started on fashion-glam models.
Beach, Yaz AND Taz – love ya!
Have to run, Hertz is calling, another long shift ahead.
Yes, Flo, very aware of the two types not liking one another. I have always had the height for runway (almsot 5′10″), but I don’t have a concave chest so this generally presents a problem for the designers. I’m not quite the “hanger” they want. All my fit work was for jeans (although I need 34″-36″ inseam for my own liking since I wear them with heels mostly). HATE WILLIAM RAST line. Love me some JT though. Still, doesn’t mean he’s a good designer.
Ok, enough of that talk. I loathe the industry sometimes.
beach_girl: I will get your email from photogirl and yes, will certainly try to make the LA trip for sure! Fun will ensue, I’m sure!
OUT.
Elegant & Beach – You have mail
San Diego SB, there’s a line in the book He’s Just Not That Into You, something about how if a guy wants to see you, he will. Guys hate confrontation and like to keep their options open so he may string it along. But if he was really into you and really looking to make something happen, it should have happened by now, IMHO. In sugar world, you might need to make extra allowance for difficulty and discretion, but the basic dynamic is still true.
OC, that’s so wonderful to hear. I go further and say I hear a new richness of tone in your voice, a deeper wisdom. Inspirational.
The idea of this monastery is cracking me up. The problem is, if IRLSD is surrounded by nobody but blog SBs, who’s he going to talk to all day about them? And how is he going to find his newbies? I think this monastery is going to need a sizable staff for the spa and poolside bar. I have this image of blog silence for a week after they enter the monastery followed by a single SOS, then me and NYC Gent getting a court order to break down the barred doors and finding that there’s been a sort of revolution inside and a new female social order has been established …. IRLSD has a Starbucks cup sleeve around his forehead and looks really tired …
OMG LMFAO!!! Thank you James – needed that
James – Totally dying of laughter right now.
Oh….several of you have asked. I’m american. But I live in Helsinki.
Oh and on the “Ugly” list of profile headers:
“Time is money, so don’t waste my time”
“The freakier the better”
James~too funny!!!!!!! I nominate Flo to be our Calypso.
Okay, so I’m back from my SD date and yes, as suspected, when confronted regarding his reasons for being so controlling and seemingly very jealous, he went on and on about wanting more than just an arrangement and had begun to have serious feelings for me and couldn’t sleep at night for wondering who else I was seeing and if I would leave him.
I was really bummed when he said this, because that’s not what I wanted at all. There was supposed to be no drama. I make sure I say this upfront – I swear I told him! Really! I explained my situation and that I only wanted NSA arrangement with good times and experiences. Nothing serious. Shit!!!
So, I told him that we were looking for different things. Unfortunately, I couldn’t be what he needed and it would do neither of us any good to try and pretend it could be. So, here I am….shit out of luck and without an SD – again! But, all things considered, it’s better this way. I’m going to update my profile and will try to make it clearer (without being rude) that I want NSA arrangements only….I’m not wife or long-term relationship material (at least not the way he wanted). I’m sure my next SD will be much better…I’m going to focus on married men ONLY!
Ciao!
Love James’ story-telling! Would love more of those short story scenarios. I’m sure they are even funnier the longer you’re on the blog and really get to know the characters in play. I’m now imagining 30-minute SB arriving just after the breakdown of the doors, panting out of breath, looking at her watch and saying, “Sorry I’m late, but we still have 10 minutes” as she slowly removes her Habit…
In other parts of the Sugar World:
Ick. Here is definitely an UGLY: “A description of what I am looking for: you are hot and like to bang. You will be paid with cash and with the pleasure of being involved with me. if these do not apply then do not apply”.
Wonder how that’s working for him so far…
VA SB: We have the same kind of luck! My last SD was married and still developed those stronger feelings that I could not reciprocate. It was hard enough to have even a glimmer of spark let alone…fall in LOVE. I updated my profile to be clear and in ALL CAPS that I AM NOT LOOKING FOR A HUSBAND OR LTR. My experiences with this have made me so nervous about first dates. Email communication and phone conversations are always wonderful leading up to that first meeting. Then after a date or two, the truth comes out and would I be willing to consider trying a real relationship. Also another reason I do advanced searches for MARRIED only. That’s ALL that works for me right now. Hang in there VA. I’m keeping my fingers crossed too.
Elegant: You crack me up.
VA SB: – It’s not a perfect scenario either. They can still fall in love or the wife can find out etc. That said, I hope you find someone great.
James: Welcome back. I missed your posts when you wandered off for the last little bit.
Thanks Elegant and Muse – you’re both right. The fact that they’re married is definitely no guarantee….but for my own search, I’ll probably focus more on those that are married. If a single SD reaches out to me again and I want to move forward, I’ll try to make sure he is on the same page that I am.
Oh well, nothing to be done about it at this point….
So, how’s everyone’s day??
A long time it took me to read up the blog.
Hi UKSB are you in the London area ?
Week-end of 6 and 7 February I happen to be in the City on some business. Would be fun to meet another blogger there.
We could share a cup of cocoa, as Flo has it that prices will go up.
Also I intend to visit the Tate Gallery to view my favourite painting again.
It is by John Linnell and I use it on my shoot invitations.
Also I enjoy the works of Wiliam Blake and look very much forward to it.
Have not been to the Tate Modern yet, but we could take the Tate boat to get there.
From the waterside London is so fascinating.
HL
VA SB – Sorry to hear about your SD! It can be so awkward when one person is fast-tracking it further than it should go, and the other is not on that page at all. But I think it was good that you ended things…you don’t want to be with someone who wants more, and on top of that, is getting jealous and icky. This gives you room to focus on you and finding someone who fits what you want even more!
Good Afternoon sugar family!!!
James, you are too funny!! Can you just see us all with IRL SD? He’d be bored with us all in a few days, not sure how to tell us, and there he would be stuck with all these gorgeous woman wondering where he going to find the challenge of a new SB to move on to!! Maybe he could rotate us, find the challenge in keeping all of US happy. If you’re going to live with women, you gotta keep them happy!!
flo = Calypso… I can see that!!
Taylor: One of my best friends lives in Finland. Sweetest woman you’d ever want to meet, and intellegent as anyone, too. Wish I could trade you places so I could see her!
Yaz and TAz, that makes me think of twins… hhmmm. something to ponder…
ES: SBA!! LMAO… I so need that!! I think about you all during the day when I should be focused on work. Just want to come home and check in!!
So, we have some resident models in the blog… now I feel REALLY fat!!
Speaking of feeling fat.. I ate WAY to much last night, made a total pig out of myself, but it was chocolate!! OMG!! Just kill me! I feel bloated and disgusting. Wish I could just NOT eat for a day, I might feel better… not getting any sleep last night didn’t help me any either!
Afternoon sugars! The snow is almost gone and ready for round 2…I welcome the break!
James.m and I had a wonderful, sugar-filled weekend…always something new and wonderful with him!
Taylor – I think HL said it best. SDs are busy men, but if they are “into you”, they will make the time. Otherwise, their contact will quickly fade off and reality sets in that it’s not quite right. Don’t take it personally…it’s just one of the less palatable parts of the process. I had one pot who cancelled 3 dates…all with very dramatic reasons. He seemed sincere, but you never know. Meanwhile, you have a search to continue
Canceling while in an arrangement: IMHO, I think it is ok for the SD to cancel due to travel, work, family obligations, etc. I would ask him at some point if the arrangement is working for him. Hopefully, he would realize that perhaps the arrangement needs to be redefined to allow for less visits, lower allowance, alternatives to meeting in person, etc. It is also a chance for the sb to express that she enjoys meeting more/less often and offer sugary suggestions. It may turn out he’s quite comfortable paying the allowance even if he doesn’t see you often…this is one place where sugar appreciation really matters.
On the flip side, SBs canceling in an arrangement would have to be very limited and for very good reasons. We all know our SDs rely on us to bring some pleasure to their hectic weeks and look forward to every visit (if you’re doing it right
) .
OC – How was your evening? What type of surprises did bf have in store?
BostonHoney – Guess who got a little something from the website you recommended a while back?
VA SB – Sorry you had to break things off. I’m sure you will find a wonderful SD who has all the same expectations you share.
Gemi – I am a Gossip Girl junkie…on all counts!
Gossip Girl – I don’t know how you do it! I would end up arranging to meet all three of them on the same night and shamefully ducking out to Starbucks (w/panties). Who knows…could bring a whole new light…perhaps broke bf would be more motivated to make a million, etc, etc.
Hi Muse!
Hi HappyLurker!
Hello ESB! Ahem. That would be EX-MODEL. I will echo what Flo said, I am an old hag now. My “you better work, turn to the left, work, now turn to the right” days are behind me. THANK GOODNESS.
Seriously need SBA! If I don’t get off my butt now and do my kettlebell training and pilates now, I will be as big as this chair I’m sitting on – (my office chair is HUGE).
Bye, Sugar Blog Friends (for now).
Wishing you all a fantastic rest of the afternoon and evening…much love…from the bottom of my butt (well, it is bigger than my heart!)
ES: Old hag in Model terms could mean late 30s? You are STILL younger than me, so HUSH!!
MMD!! Welcome! Good to see you!
I got home from our little Sugar Meeting last night at 1, bed 1:15ish, had to be back up at 5:30 to take Baby Girl to her LAX game, which was an hour drive, got home at 1:30 and DIED for a few hours. I’m still feeling sleepy, but I had so much fun with these ladies, I feel pretty good about it.
DC SB is the sweetest thing, so cute and lively! She kept us in stiches with her stories, and I learned so much from her, despite her youth. Such an intellegent lady, with so much to offer. Wish I had lived her life growing up. Kinda made me think about where I came from, how far I’ve come, but not nearly as far as she is going to go!
VA SB is also a very up and coming lady, with much to teach us all. Very strong woman, with warmth and compassion, and so much to offer, any SD would be proud to call her his. She has so much to bring to the table. I feel I made some true friends last night, just wish I didn’t eat so much!! lol
VA SB: I’m sorry you had to end thigns with the SD. Aww.. I’m sure there will be someone for you again soon. Just gotta stay positive.
Oh ESB – <3 (lub dub, lub dub)
You and DC SB are so awesome….
But, I should second those thoughts….SDs if you're reading this message, I can highly recommend my two beautiful friends….You would be lucky to have them as your SB and they would bring a lot of fun and joy into your life. I was very pleased to spend time with two such people and can't wait until we can do it again!
But you're right, we ate so much, but the desserts were oh so yummy!!
Did you get some rest today? Did Baby Girl win her game?
ESB – yeah, it was hard….never thought I would need to do that…
But, as we said last night…we had a feeling what he was looking for. I’m bummed, but it will be okay…
The LAX games were embarrasing!! They lost both games, 4 – 34, and 6 – 28… Baby Girl played goalie, which she NEVER did before, so it was kinda funny, but they had fun, til an AMAZON from the other team slammed one of our girls up against the wall!! (They put turf on the hocky floor) Wow, I had one of my HOT moments! My friend was next to me and grabbed my arm, shook her head, and that was all it took. I was steaming the rest of the game, but kept it to myself. Baby Girl said, “It’s a rough game Mom” I guess so!
OH, and yea, slept for 2 hours. Knew if I slept anymore than that, I’d never get to sleep tonight
Sounds like all the sbs are ready for snuggies, Anna’s hot chocolate and an early night in! Let the SDs have their game night
PS – The DC and NY Meets sound like fun! I love that all these meets are popping up everywhere!
Photogirl- I’m ALL for a FL meet! I will be there in June for a high school reunion, but I don’t need an excuse to come another time!
Photogirl – one piece of advice…I was looking at flights and late Feb to early April prices are higher due to Spring Break, etc.
I will be in FL in late June, as well… family reunion, parents 50th! Sounds like a plan is brewing!!
Hi Everyone! I’m heading home and waaaaaay lacking in the sleep dept, but since I seem to have nothing but time now, here goes.
How do you let potential sugars know the level of emotional and physical involvement you seek? In your profile?
I don’t really, mostly because I’m flexible. I have an idea of what I want, but I leave room for serendipity. I’m more looking for a certain type of person. For the right SD, the arrangement can look many ways and I’d probably be happy. We’d have to have an emotional and intellectual connection on some level as I’m just not that mechanical. At the same time, I don’t want anyone “cramping my lifestyle” and I definitely don’t want to do that to them.
Have any sugar-profile headings stuck out to you? Care to share?
Well, of course the sans panties guy’s does, but for different reasons. His profile and heading have nothing to do with what he actually seeks. There’s another one that’s pretty funny, and it something like “you’ll like me if you want a beat up stringy piece of meat.” I wrote him based on his sense of humor.
NYCSB – Glad you are now using your REAL identity!!
XoXo!
Oops, sorry for all the bold. Forgot the close tag.
Midwest I am glad you had a good time this weekend with your SD
(still feel funny using his name now that James is back, don’t want to confuse anyone)
Thank you for asking about my evening! You are so sweet.
Deets on the evening…
When he picked me up he told me we were
having a quick cocktail and dropping off a check
before heading to dinner.
What he failed to tell me is that he planned a
cocktail reception for 25 of his friends to
donate to the relief efforts in Haiti.
We pulled up to his office building downtown LA and
the lobby was transformed into this twinkling
wonderland. He didn’t want to tell me because
I would want to plan and help. He knows me too
well.
He felt that his friends would donate on their own, but
a few “tight asses” needed to have the others supervise
the amount of zero’s on the check. His friends are
fun and amazing. The checks were generous and the amount
of zero’s were in abundance.
We then left for dinner in Seattle at my favorite spot, he told his friends
that he was off to have dinner with his “Pretty Woman”…
I love when he uses that priviate joke. All in all it is exactly how I
would want to spend my special evening. Giving and knowing
that small groups of individuals being generous can add up
to great things.
OC: Sounds like the perfect “date” Im jealous!
One of my girlfriends asked me how the dating life was, she is happily married, but loved hearing my adventures… When I told her I haven’t had a “real” date in months, she was really down. She said she is going to have to “fix” that…lol.. she has a gay brother in law she wants to fix me up with… thinks I can straighten him out!! LMAO.. I seriously doubt I’d even want to try. He’s a wonderful person as he is!
ESB don’t be jealous. I kissed my fair share of frogs along the way. You will find him too! Just not thru your girlfriend!!! Her picker is waay off.
Yea. no doubt. He is wonderful, I”ve been to family events with them. We will sit and chat for hours, I think because I accept him for who he is, and he only goes for his nieces and nephews. He adores them. His family wants him to be someone he’s not. I only talk to them when at their house, so nah.. nothing there even as a best bud goes…
I don’t think I want my friends fixingme up with anyone, if it don’t work out, they feel hurt, and it causes friction. I just want my friends to stay out of it, just be there for me when I need them for comfort! Unless they know of some really hot guy who wants to be my SD!! lol
I need to get off of here, time to do some cooling.
OC, LASB, MMD, VA SB, and anyone else I missed.. have a great night!!
Happy Lurker: come out of lurking mood more often. I find you interesting!
Night all.. going to crawl under the covers early tonight!!
Ok, still catching up on the blog.
ElegantSugar – I love your line about luck. I believe we create our own. When people say, “Oh, he/she was just lucky to be at the right place at the right time.” I think “Well, he/she knew to be there, so that’s not luck.”
Florida – The actual sans panties email was sooooo much more disgusting and crass than “bring lube” that yours pales in comparison. The sans panties part was really the only part I could share on this sort of a forum. I have a really really high threshold, and even *I* felt disgusted and dirty after I read it. lol.
I wanted to bring up something else that was said earlier by you, Flo. The “It takes money to make money” philosophy. I believe we glazed over it at the NYC mini meet, though I had a pretty good buzz going, so I may have some of the facts wrong. It was said that you need a certain amount of money to play the SB game. I agree, as it takes money to dress snappy, look good, have your nails done, pay for your gym membership, etc, just so that you can reel in the pots in the first place. I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts, particularly those from folks who disagree.
p/s Oh yeah, and not to mention, to put yourself in the pathway of pots, such as attending events or sitting in first class, you can run up a pretty hefty bill. How does everyone deal with/get around that?
Nite ESB! You are too funny
Hi ya LASB, can’t say that I had a ton of money when I began down the SB trail. My sugar luck seemed to happen without it. But I think that putting yourself in the path of POTs is always a good idea. However maybe just left of Center might get their attention to a greater extent. Those that are less obvious and can exude confidance shine brightly. IMHO
Off to get in some of the last bits of sunlight and dry weather before the rains start yet again and again and again.. Sweet Sugar’in
Good evening everyone !! Just chiming in after a wonderful sugar weekend and in between the football games.
VA SB ~~ What you wrote about your SD meeting hit very close to home with me. I had a wonderful SD arrangement last year that ended as he and his wife relocated out of the country…and jumped onto this site seeking a great friendship, partner, arrangement with another married man….as I too was seeking something truly compartmentalized. I met a handful, a few became tax clients of mine and great friends, a few just poofed or were the “fake” true SDs and then…met a single man for the first time. It started out as a traditional arrangement which was wonderful, but in the past few weeks has turned into a very excusive incredible BF/dating relationship. But i found myself in the same boat as he, wanting more, craving more time together….he a bit more into it than i…and even talked to my best amazing blogger friend about it….as to if i really want this…He is separated and living apart from his wife for over 3 years…as a prenup in place and much $$$ to sort out…so he doesn’t want marriage,…but a long term relationship. After another incredible weekend with him…i am without a doubt postive that i couldn’t be happier..nor could ever find a traditional SD relationship to be better than what i have now…So, in a nutshell, although i was very resistant to EVER opening my heart..i have…and I can say, never say never,….Although you are set on what you want and need….and seek to find that…yes, there are many SDs that are exactly what you need and want…..sometimes completely shutting out your options limits what could enlighten you beyond your wildest dreams.
OC ~~ Sooo happy you have found your prince charming.
Everyone else…….enjoy your evening….off to watch the game.
LASB – I heard some ideas a few years ago. Some sound far-fetched and others seem like they may work.
1- Get involved with a high-profile non-profit cause (that you are passionate about). You may not have money to donate, but I’m sure you have experience and skills that you could donate. Join one of their committees and be a great contributor. The members will notice you. Then you can ask for introductions for your career, etc. It’s a long-term goal, but there are some wonderful long-term benefits and a great cause.
2- Get a small convertible and drive it through the nicer neighborhoods. I say this is a stretch for a lady on a budget. However, you can run/walk through those neighborhoods on weekends, early mornings and early evenings.
3- Seek out a friend in marketing or media. They get invited to EVERYTHING, but often cannot go. Let them know you would be happy to attend an event in their place. When you go, dress accordingly and be social. If you find one person you know, ask them to introduce you around.
4- As for the clothes – take a hint from Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffanys. Find a simple and flattering black dress. Then adjust shoes, accessories according to the ocassion. (White, silk wrap, pasminas, pearls, CZ, pumps, peep-toes, etc.) This will take you a long way. Every lady should have an after 5 cocktail dress for those nicer ocassions. Look at the clearance racks at the bridal boutiques. Also look at the higher-end consignment shops.
Hope this helps!
OC – Sounds like a wonderful evening everyone can feel good about. James.m and I got on the topic of a new blog name…let’s see if he tests one out
NeOhioSB – Congrats and a new transition. It will work for some. I guess that’s one of the wonderful things about the sugar bowl. We get to meet men of a higher caliber. If everyone is happy, things will follow their path organically. It’s sooooo important to be aware of what you truly want and to set the proper expectations.
On the note of expectations…. I see that a remarkable percentage of our blog sbs have had what I would call “exceptional” arrangements filled with international travels, endless shopping trips, extraordinary experiences and the like. My initial inclination is to say this is the exception and not the “norm”.
What expectations would you tell the newer sbs coming to SA? What do you tell them about finding that SD/SB that goes above a typical arrangement? How many of you are/would be satisfied with a typical arrangement?
OC – not taking over the blog
For those of you who date married or “separated” SD’s– I would love to know how the allowance part of things is handled without the Mrs. finding out? If you feel odd about posting here– please ask OC or Stephan to send along my e-mail addy to you.
LASB
Midwest is so right (and wise).
I mentioned before to get to know friends in marketing (local football, basketball, baseball teams – events and PR) they really do get invited to all events and ‘attractive friends’ are always welcome. LiveNation is great for national concerts.
Also get to know flight attendants or pilots (but pilots can be geeky) and hotel event staff and bartenders and bouncers.
Bouncers and high end bartenders will know the party animals (and big tippers).
in terms of make up – mani pedi – you can trade bater or do it yourself or these are not that expensive.
In terms of researching talking points and being knowledgeable about SD’s the internet and friends can help.
In terms od being in shape there are internet routines you can do in your home – remember squats, burpees and press ups are all effective and require no equipment – yes it’s boring but there is really no excuse. You can also run BUT in NY there’s no way in winter.
Lastly money to tend events, travel – sorry that’s where you do need a wad of cash to get by. Hope that helps!
I’ve mentioned charities – also zoo – Met Museum etc are great ways to meet rich donors.
Btw Hertz gives me running money to attend these events and that’s how I met SD – joking!
Midwest ~~ Very true…we all know what we need and want in an arrangement…my truth and tell was merely me realizing and remembering my original intentions and being so set on finding another “married” SD…not even opening my eyes to “single” SDs and realizing on what i have and what i could have potentially missed out before from being so set and narrow minded.
SBnxtdoor ~~ My 1st SD who was married….was a hedgie,.. He had multiple international investments..which he monitored and his wife new nothing about…and would wire transfer me from those accounts every month and also set up a separate bank account for me that he would put other cash deposits in for only my access for wdrawls.
Midwest – I blogged on typical arrangements a long time ago. I still think that $3-5k paid out of income means gross annual income of approx $300-500k – which by definition is a low percentage of US incomes. So by definition $3-5k is a high allowance and a typical allowance must be lower. Other than that finding someone who connects physically and emotionally (or not) or logistically is tough (as previously discussed). Lastly for SB’s I can’t change looks or geography but we can fix process and packaging. For SD’s I can’t fix income and geography but likewise.
SBnextdoor – for most allowances cash is the way to go, also SD needs to be smart on comms protocol. All comms should be through one channel – to be erased from call log or txt memory. If he keeps your # wirtten down transpose the last two digits or use the last number up or down rule (eg if phone ends 6378 then switch to 6387 in his memory or 6379). You’ll have times to call and not call or he calls you. Agree a comms protocol and an allowance protocol and a meet protocol (also have a cover story if you are blown). This is where spy school helps. Sorry i’m rambling.
Lastly at the risk of incurring everyone’s wrath i’ll introduce newbie to 1-2 bloggers (but he has no interest in blogging again) which proves he exists. And as I said before check me out at Hertz JFK.
Ciao peeps.
NYC Bella – do you mean Calypso – Greek mythology – Odyssey? or Calypso – in Pirates of Caribbean?
must dash late shift at Hertz
NEOhio SB – “we all know what we need and want in an arrangement…”
Actually I don’t really have a set of goals for a sugar relationship. I have formed an idea of what I like and especially know what I don’t want since starting my search, but I’m actually quite open to various scenarios. That being said, I know I don’t want anything that is remotely escort-ish. For sure, I don’t want a married guy who wants weekday afternoon visits or anything that leaves me feeling objectified.
Midwest, for James M’s name, what about “James M who actually has an SB?” hahaha
Thanks for the feedback, sugars,
gosh i cant keep up with you guys uuggggh
Flo~I was referring to Greek mythology; however, the POC one is based loosely on the Greek one (though not in the most flattering of lights)
Good luck with Hertz…I used to work for Enterprise (but the NYC meet has been making me rethink the rental industry).
LASB~I’ve been thinking about that since we all met up. To me, being the single, beautiful and intelligent young woman that you are, doors can be opened rather easily for social events and settings. Especially being in a city like NY or LA. But, as a pot SB you do have to play up certain assets. (I.e. Just getting my hair done regularly costs what some people pay in rent in parts of the country outside the major metropolises.) And, to maintain certain “standards” of living you have to be self-sufficient. Desperation (esp. for $$$) is never an attractive quality.
Also, it allows for one to be more choosy with pots rather than compromising standards and settling for an arrangement that is beneath you. I would never want to find myself trapped in an unhealthy situation simply because I couldn’t afford to walk away. As long as you’re living within your means and able to maintain those basic standards that you are comfortable with, it will allow you to continue to foster your own sense of self-confidence, and the knowledge that your life is your own and that it will continue moving you to greater heights of fulfillment. I love the book “The Secret.” It’s got a great take on how to approach life.
Ooh, looks like my sushi delivery is here…I love take out!
Flo Rida that works at Hertz – Thanks for the compliment…those were all great suggestions. As for the “typical vs. extravangant” arrangement, I was referring less the allowance and more to the extra perks you, OC, Elegant, NYC SB and our more experienced sbs have enjoyed. How typical is that really? Should the newer sbs realize that’s what to “expect” or what to “hope for”.
LASB – hehe – Does James (the Bard?) have an sb?
Sexy Lexxiii – Hi! I don’t think I’ve welcomed you in the past. Great to see more bloggers!
NEOhio SB – The beautiful thing is that you allowed yourself to be open to possibilities. TLG always says we all want something different. So true…it’s just that some of us have looser definitions. It all depends on the person.
Overall, I think it takes work and discipline to maintain that fine line between getting deeply involved emotionally and being able to connect in a way that makes your arrangement special to both parties.
Elegant – a previous post led me to believe you had one SD that you were not particularly connected to…that it actually took work to fulfill. What made you decide to enter that arrangement? Did he sense your level of connection? Was he ok with it? How long did it last? Was it more business-like in nature? Is that enough questions for now???
Well, regarding the issue of getting too close to someone…I think where you are in life matters. Not age, but how you feel about intimacy, marriage, etc. There are some people (I believe I’m one of them) who feel that intimacy can be had with somone special, but that special someone doesn’t have to be the love of your life. It can be someone you simply find sexy, or someone you enjoy spending time with, etc.
The thing is knowing when to cut it off – how “not” to have things go further than they should. If I keep that in perspective, then I’ll always be okay and I’ll never get caught in a situation where love has crept up and bit me in the ass. Having an SD can help me get the things I want/need in life, but we always have to remember that this is temporary “unless” you agree up front that a potential relationship is in the cards.
By the way, Elegant when you go that SBA (Sugar Blog Anonymous) meeting, I need to go with you….I can’t step away from this darn thing….it’s sooooo addictive….
so this guy claims to be a wealthy SD but has no cable, lives with parents (because they are “close”),has a prepaid phone, teaches at a college…………………….gee wealthy has a new meaning
Wow Sexy…..really? Doesn’t he realize what it means to be an SD? Why would he think a woman, any woman, would be interested in him with all those marks against him.
Sorry, but I’m here for an experience….and he wouldn’t be the one to offer it.
Sexy Lexiii – egads!!! NEXT!!
SBA – Hi, I’m Midwest and I’m a SA blog addict.
oh hi midwest. yeah i’m a new blogger
Hi, Midwest. I’m Bella and I’m an SA blog addict…heehee*
Midwest: not sure exactly what you’re referring to as “extra perks.” Things like nice dinners, theater and the like are technically “extras” but very typical.
I think shopping, even high end shopping (designer bags, shoes, etc.) is not uncommon, although by no means universal. Ditto weekend trips to nice places in the U.S. (South Beach, Vegas, New York), or say, Caribbean or Mexico. Not saying those are everyday occurrences but not “unusual.”
What I think is pretty atypical is an allowance above $5K (NYC SB, the true expert, says $3-$5K is “average” even in tres expensive NYC), or above $2-$3K in the hinterlands. Again, there are exceptions.
Also unusual are the big-time investments (e.g., $25-$50K to help on a business, or a $50K writeoff of student loans, credit cards, other debts). Again, it happens, but the “normal” arrangement won’t involve that level of assistance and shouldn’t be “anticipated” unless it was part of the original deal.
Lexiii~maybe he has a nifty scooter he’ll loan you as part of an arrangement…lol. Does he actually advertise his “attributes” on his page or is that something he held back as his ace to sweeten the deal?
yeah never look on cragslist for sugar daddies lol they seriously give sugar daddies a bad name tsk tsk tsk
lol NYCbella- oh this one wasnt from SA,cragslist actuall and he spoke about being very wealthy and being very smart smh lol
Lexiii~NO! Not craigslist!!!! Even reputable pimps know not to waste time posting on craigslist!
I just looked at the featured profiles right now and one of the “30 year olds” featured looks like a 40 year old version (the guy doesn’t look 30) of one of my ex’s from college. I almost want to send him the picture (we’re still friends) because it’s pretty funny!
NYGent – Thank you…that’s exactly the kind of information I was looking for.
How was your weekend?
I can’t imagine even attempting Craigslist after the murder madness that occurred. Please be careful.
Midwest: also keep in mind that some of these extremely high perks you sometimes hear about are often from SDs “off the site” who are billionaires, or close to it, who met their SBs IRL. SBs on the blog/site shouldn’t judge their “perks” in relation to that standard, it’s apples and oranges.
NYGent – yes, I’ve definitely come to realize that while some of our blog friends have been very lucky, not everyone will have the same experience…I have to make sure that I stay realistic with my expectations.
NYCBella — lol @ “reputable pimps”
VA SB — also keep in mind that while hopefully all of the SB stories on here are true, it is the internet and the truth can get stretched and fabricated; just because a SB says her SD does certain things, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true or that she even has an SD for that matter. I’m sure no one on here would ever lie, but you know, maybe if there’s another SD-site blog out there or something in a parallel universe, take things with a grain of salt.
I agree with NY Gent about the “middle market” or middle of the road expectations. There are definitely exceptions; in addition to some of the amazing women here, we’ve all heard stories and known people. I suppose it’s a little like being “discovered” as an actress. But I think his range is about right for sustainable farming, to coin a phrase, of a typical SD, for a typical SB with earthly ties and only so much time to devote to the chase. Particularly if the SD has to arrange a hotel room each time.
Lexii, NO NO craigslist NO NO stay away for so many reasons, including your physical safety, mental health and personal liberty
lol i knooooow. CL is horrible
Cali SB – very good advice and so very true….
To all – Thank you for chiming in! Let me clarify, this was a concern b/c I was wondering if the new sbs were thinking all those extra perks that some have experienced were the norm. If expectations are set too high, it will be challenging to find a SD they are happy with.
NYGent and James – I agree 100% as for perks and allowance ranges according to geography.
Cali SB – It’s ok to hope and share, but very important to happy with the wonderful experiences and assistance we are so fortunate to receive.
ahh the sugar world is rough haha
Lexiii, here’s the main point: the sugar world may have its rough edges, but it is prep school compared to CL and the vinegar world — it’s hard to describe how and why, exactly, but it is — it has standards and is generally nicer with nicer people — the great thing about this spontaneous community is its dedication to preserving that difference — like a posse in a frontier town without a fulltime sheriff.
James- thats true but i guess ppl like CL because the response is almost instant and things move fast i guess i kinda like that lol but i mean on SA i like it because u can see who reads your sent messages but some SD take forever to reply or check messages on here or to exchange emails and whatever, maybe its just me hehe.
Lexiii, if you walk into a crowded sports bar in a lowcut top, short skirt, fishnet stockings and heels, I guarantee you will get an almost instant response and things will move fast. And you will probably have better luck and be safer than meeting men on CL. That’s like wearing those same clothes standing next to the Lincoln Tunnel. A walk on the wild side, for sure.
What is everybody up to?
Midwest/VA: a “true” SD will be generous with perks and extras without having to be asked. Correspondingly, a “true” SB will mostly sit back and see what level of generosity flows, without requesting or demanding this or that particular “perk.” In the end, I believe SBs will do better “net net” by following that tactic, and that the biggest mistake they can make is “overplaying their hand” and risking annoying the SD. A wife can nag or needle her husband to buy her things and get anway with it; an SB should not. If the level of sugar assistance or generosity is not up to their liking, they can raise it as a point of conversation, suggest a revised arrangement, or end the arrangement if it’s really inadequate.
The most important thing is to make the right decision up front. In the insurance/underwriting world, which is all about risk assessment, there’s a saying that you need to get it right when the submission hits your desk. If you do, you’ll have a profitable deal. If you don’t you’ll have nothing but bad claims experience. So the most important thing for SBs is to choose wisely when selecting an SD to enter an arrangement with. Get that decision right and the rest will take care of itself.
yeah you are right james, and they are all the same,very creepy
Evening AM! I apparently have the duty desk on the blog tonight, I’m chiming in to support NY Gent as he defines the market, and I am trying to knock some sense into newbie heads (lol Lexiii)
NYGent – thanks for the insight. Good thing to keep in mind as I go forward…
All right – Nite all….I have to get up early to workout and I’m fading fast. Chat with everyone tomorrow…
LOL James, I couldn’t think of a better guy to be on the duty desk tonight
NYGent – So true, so true! All of you were so helpful in guiding the process when I got started. It helped james.m and I work out the right arrangement. James has been very generous beyond our arrangement without asking, hints, etc. and I am most grateful. I will say that I firmly believe he would not tolerate or enjoy a sb who pushed for more. He has this wonderful traditional desire to surprise me and be the gentleman. I have a feeling many of the gents here feel the same way.
lol hey hey hey,there is sense in this head lol they were just misguided hmph
Lexiii – I’m sure it was more of a gentle head slap done with caring and affection
lol well…ok,i’ll take that
Thanks AM, you are right Midwest, all with affection. Night everybody!
night James!! thanks
I’m off too! G’night AM, NYGent, James, Lexiii, and VA! Sugar dreams!
Midwest: I had an SB a while back who was never satisfied with what I did. I made Valentine’s Day reso at a very nice resto, she didn’t like it, called another place on her own, and said we’re going there (we did). I suggested a weekend in the country, she said no let’s go to South Beach and stay at the swankiest hotel in town (we did). Once we got there she demanded that I buy her designer sunglasses. (I did) I made restaurant reso at a very nice south beach resto and she said no, I want to go to Nobu (we did). I ended the arrangment about a day and half after we returned to NYC. Had she been more appreciative I’m sure it would have lasted several weeks if not months longer. That’s what I mean by “overplaying your hand.”
btw she was a model.
night midwest!
NYGent-sounds a tad bit selfish of her and i am just being modest
Cali SB and Midwest – I completely agree with Cali SB, the truth can be stretched on the internet. The safest approach is to believe nothing unless proved otherwise.
A typical SD will NOT provide out of this world perks. Think of it this way an $11,000 per day hotel suite Le Crillion bill (where Princess Diana stayed the night she died) to a billionaire is equivalent to a $11 to a millionaire (if you divide by $1,000) and less than 1 cent to a person earning $100k (again dividing by 1,000. Would a millionaire hesitate to spend $11 per night, no. Do billionaires exist, yes they do, will they die one day, yes they will, will they take their money with them when they die, no. Are there many billionaires in the world looking for a mistress, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
So to recap as they say in Congress – TRUST but verify and as they say in spy school – trust NO ONE.
NYC Bella – i’m absolutely not Calypso – i’m submissive but i’m very entertaining when I want to be.
What a great game sorry Vikes lost – VC I was praying. Still working hard at Hertz!
Flo: I thought Di stayed at the Ritz the night she died, but that’s a quibble. Otherwise agree with your comments (except I was happy for Saints).
nice take on that flo rida, its so true how you put it and it makes complete sense
correction: Di and Dodi Fayed had dinner at the Ritz the night she died, then were headed back to his apartment in the 8th arrondisement.
Hey Everyone!
Vikes Lost …
Colts won woo hooo….
NYGent – I might be wrong that’s what they told me at the hotel. The suite plus driver plus nanny (long story) did cost $11k – Silly me. Separately I loved Casa Tua (spelling) in South Beach and Nobu London is much better than Nobu NY BUT a girl likes what she likes.
Flo: technically all statements on the blog are hearsay and would be inadmissble as evidence in any court of law. Exception for “declarations against interest,” e.g., admissions of stupid behavior, although still inadmissible if intended primarily to elicit sympathy, or to attract SBs/SDs.
ahh frustrating night it is
Errata – Trust no one is the first lesson in spy school BUT you won’t be a succesful spy if you trust no one so the second lesson in spy school is ‘Be careful in whom you trust’ and the third lesson in spy school is ‘Don’t get caught’, and the fourth lesson is ‘Always have an exit strategy (safe house, back up, fall back plan).’
Flo: this was Nobu at the Shore Club in South Beach.
Does anyone remember who the guy with and without the parrot was? Because some guy with a parrot just emailed me and I’m pretty sure I don’t want to read/respond. Sigh.
NYGent That’s even worse.
NYGent – i’m not a lawyer but aren’t statements on the internet admissable in the context of a defamation of character tortious civil case? Libel?
Still not a lawyer, still working hard at Hertz
I love food, but I’ll be honest… some of the best dates I’ve ever had were while enjoying a slice of pizza, a falafel pita or a burrito.
NYGent – I agree with you – the correct order for Nobu restaurants is 1 Nobu central London 2Nobu NY 3 Nobu Canary Wharf London 4 Nobu Vegas 5 Nobu Next Door NY.
The other Nobu’s I wouldn’t even go to overpriced rip-offs. Btw Masa is better than Nobu and Megu is trendier than Nobu.
Still working hard at Hertz.
Muse,
I remember that guy! When I first joined last year, he was on here with a parrot. But, if I’m not mistaken, doesn’t he have two other picutres with two different states?
Thanks Flo. SHIT! I cannot believe the vikings LOST.
VC~ I am sorry girl, just hear about it… couldn’t watch, mom Bday dinner!
NYGent – I find that Russian’s love Nobu London and clearly Asian’s like Nobu NY – was she Russian or Asian? Just curious? Also wierd choice as tourists go to Joe’s Stone Crab or the trendy hotels (you know the place where Justin Timberlake stays blah). ciao
NJLady I’m not sure but the profile isn’t appealing. I think it’s time to lie my butt off and tell him I’m not looking right now.
Flo – All I can say to that is “Zuma…yummy!”
Ah…Forrest Gump never gets old. Thought I’d pop in for one last little bit before bed.
Flo~And yet, I believe you have it in you to reign over our monastery of misfit SB’s as we keep IRL SD from making those SOS posts…starbucks cup sleeve on his head and all.
Muse~you lucky girl…
I can’t remember his name, but he has atleast 3 profiles all with the same pic of him in a white shirt with a very colorful bird on his right shoulder.
Well, I’m going to go and get some much needed beauty rest. Sweet dreams, sugars.
Thanx Beach. Yeah, I can’t believe it. Happy birthday to your momma. Mine is tomorrow. Almost the same!!!!
NYC Bella – White shirt? Hm, this one seems to be wearing a blue shirt. Maybe there are multiple parrot men? Weird. Sweet dreams!
Muse – But Zuma is in the Epic hotel downtown (right?) which is say $25-30 cab ride near Brickell – Biscayne Blvd and not near South Beach – if you meant in general yes Zuma in London is fab – i’ve never been to Epic – Zuma, i’ll have to try it out. Ciao.
Flo – I’ve never been to Zuma in Miami but Zuma in London is my favorite sushi restaurant period. Zuma in Dubai is also ok.
Zuma in London IS fab. Try it if you’re there.
there are MANY “parrot men” on SA…. and they’re all fake… stay away!
Muse~maybe it was blue…or he could be trying to just keep it fresh and new with shirt changes…I think his hair was on the long side though…
Ok…now I’m really going to log off…Sheesh…don’t know that SBA is working for me….hahaha
VC – SO SORRY DARLING, close game though. Happy bday for tomorrow! Are you looking forward to the Twins new stadium? Love ya!
Beach – happy bday to your mother?
NYCBella – they teach the Special Forces people to be anonymous in interrogation – prison – so I would be invisible in a monastery. Also sorry for another error it should really be a nunnery.
Night all – early shift at Hertz tomorrow – ciao!
VC~ we just had the dinner tonight, My mom’s bday is the same as yours!
Happy Birthday to you VC!!!!
Flo~ Thank you… we had a great time… Went to a Brazilian restaurant… it was fun… tones of dancing lol…
FLO- grazzie (corsican dialect). thanks for the birthday wishes. No, dont care about the Twins. Hate baseball. Boring as hell.
Next time I rent-a-car I’ll come to you at Hertz. glad to have a connection in the field. bwahahahahahh
Muse – would you rank Zuma in London over Masa in NY, it’s hard for me to believe that Masa can be beaten. If Masa is too expensive you can go to Masa Bar which is less expensive (but still pricey). i’ll try Zuma in London and hope the Russian mafia stay at Nobu.
VC – love ya!
Over and out.
ahh i forgot forrest gump wa on. Run forrest ruuun!
Merci, beach. Bonne anniv a ta mere.
Le 25th, c’est bien! 
VC~ oui comme toi! Bonne Fete a toi… Ma tres Cher Amie!
ahh i forgot forrest gump wa on. Run forrest ruuun! yeah think m givin up on the blog for tonight night y’all
Sexy~ night girl,,, Yeah Forest Gump played all day lol… I love that movie, he sits there and talks to this women, who clearly wants to read in peace lol… Classic! Talk soon
FLO – ti amo.
Beach – mercie mon amie. grazzie mille
Migraine has finally subsided a bit. Gearing up for another night of crimewatch since my sleep is off. I feel like Batman.
So I was thinking, I have met a SD IRL, it was just over a year ago. I was out for a friend’s b-day and we were at some tiny dark (popular at the time, but not sure if it is now, they change so fast!) club whose name I can’t recall at the moment but I’m sure will come to me after I post this. Most of the girls that we were out with are pretty unopen to meeting guys that aren’t young and hot so when an older um.. portly.. gentleman came over to us and started talking to me and offering to come to his table I obliged and my friends followed hesitantly. Maybe it’s growing up on the East Coast or being a Libra, but I’m very friendly with everyone I meet. John Mayer was sitting at the next table and either Eve or Lil’ Kim was at the far table.. I didn’t see her, I forget who it was. Anyway, turns out the guy is a lawyer from NJ, married with kids and was telling me all about his 2 gf’s (1 was with him, it was her first time in LA). They were buying bottles of Cristal and chatting with us all evening. I actually talked to the SD quite a bit, but there was no physical attraction on my end. Ironically, this trashy red-head that was with us that none of us liked (it was the gf of my bday friend’s bf’s best friend) ended up going back to the hotel with the SD and having sex with him and doing drugs. Yuck! The SB was happy b/c she didn’t have to sleep with him that night. I found this out the next day at dinner as the SD invited me to a nice group dinner with him and the SB at Beso. I still talk to him once in a blue moon, mainly through text. But that has been the only IRL SD experience I have had (that I am aware of).
Evening, Sugars!
Always so much to catch up on here. I was asked one specific question by MMD, which I will happily answer, but first I want to address the following:
LASB’s question of “takes money to make money” philosophy:
Definitely will chime in and agree with both MMD’s and Flo’s list. Making friends with the right people always, always helps. Friends in marketing and PR firms will almost always extend an invitation to events they are helping to promote. In terms of funding for the events (cost of ticket), it isn’t common but possible to attend these functions at no cost. I have a friend who is the CEO of a marketing firm and I offered to help as the Emcee for the raffle ticket announcements or introduction of guest speakers and she was thankful to not have to find someone to do this and deal with negotiating a rate or asking them to do it at no cost (since the events are for charity) so she agreed to let me do it and now I have a seat at no cost. Now she calls me for future events and has even referred me to other event planning companies. I have met many wealthy individuals this way – but none that have made sugar offers. Of course, I’m not shy at all and can make conversation with a potted plant (ask photogirl) so offering to grab the mic and speak at large events is not a big deal for me. If you are unable to do that, offer to sit at the table to check names off the VIP list or any other type of help they need during the event. Of course, in some cases, the venue hosting the event will have staff doing some of those things.
Looking the part: Again, some great advice above. I bought the kettlebell training DVD with weights for $13.97. Amazing results in a week, ladies!! Because I need to be pushed in other areas (eating right & cardio), I have a personal trainer that I bartered a deal with. He trains me three days a week in exchange for writing an article a week for his fitness blog.
Married SDs and allowance:
First SD was in wealth management and global investment management. And much like NEOhio SB’s SD, he had and managed many international accounts. He opened up an account for me and made a deposit on the 1st and 15th of each month. Second SD (also married) would pay cash sometimes or just make a direct deposit into my account – he had all of my account info. The latter was the preference since it was so much cash to carry home from a trip.
MMD’s question: “Elegant – previous post led me to believe you had one SD that you were not particularly connected to…that it actually took work to fulfill. What made you decide to enter that arrangement? Did he sense your level of connection? Was he ok with it? How long did it last? Was it more business-like in nature? Is that enough questions for now???”
The “work” part for me was the affection and intimacy. I wasn’t physically attracted to him at all, but my first SD said to me while helping with my pursuit of SD #2 (yes, he was involved with me selecting my second SD). He said, “Elegant, you will end up with who pays you the most, who pursues you the most or who you are most attracted to/interested in. The chances of all 3 being the same person are smaller than winning the lottery. So you need to decide which one (or two) you will try to go after. Well, he pursued me the most AND made me a financial offer that I could not turn down. I thought I could, after time, become more attracted to him because I generally am someone who falls for brains and personality above looks. That never happened. It didn’t help that we only saw each other twice a month and rarely communicated in between. It wasn’t just his physical appearance I wasn’t attracted to, it was also his lack of assertiveness and his somewhat introverted nature. I didn’t recognize these things on our first few meetings. I am very much extroverted (again, ask photogirl), have a very strong personality (as you can probably tell) so really need a much stronger personality (the masculine polarity) to balance out my energies. In other words, a man who is confident rather than timid. A self-confident man who takes charge and is strong and commanding, regardless of his physical appearance, can win me over and get me excited – whereas, a soft-spoken, indecisive one will eventually annoy me. I tried for six months. His feelings for me grew and mine towards him were becoming more distant. We became wonderful friends and talked about everything under the sun, but as far as intimacy, it was just me going through the motions each time (sometimes even dreading it) and I just couldn’t continue. It would have been unfair to him and to me both had I stayed in the arrangement. The allowance was exceptionally large, the trips and gifts were lavish, but at the end of the day, I didn’t feel right about not being able to give him the very thing he was missing in his marriage. Sure, I was giving it to him, but out of obligatory reasons, not desire. (Does all of that answer your questions, MMD?)
Cali SB: Oh my gosh. I bought some of the Yoplait Parfait Lemon Torte!!! I am addicted!! SOOOO DELICIOUS! Only 100 calories.
VA SB : I think I will start a blog/forum for SBA! Want to be a moderator?? Ha ha!
**sorry for typos or any other areas of mistakes. Not proofreading. Tired.
OH GAWD. The guy with the parrot! He wants someone for his girlfriend, right? At least that’s what he emailed me. I think he also has another profile with a photo of his girlfriend’s abs or something? Dubious.
MMD – I think that’s why pot#3, (the one flying in this week) is going to be THE ONE. Just through our daily phone conversations, I can tell he is very outgoing, confident and assertive. Me likey.
NYCBella – I totally agree with you, in that it’s best to have a financial safety net so that you aren’t coming from a desperate place, either in your search for sugar or in other areas of your life. I liked The Secret too, although that was just the beginning. There is much better out there.
Elegant – Thanks for your take on my question. I totally get what you’re saying. I get a lot of freebies these days based on who I know. It’s a nice feeling and I always try to reciprocate and show my appreciation. I don’t know how that all translates into sugar, though, but maybe at some point, I too will find myself at the right place at the right time.
Muse – Ask Gossip Girl about the parrot guy. Chances are, he’s in the database. The ones that I saw of him was with him in a white shirt with a parrot on his shoulder. And then in the other pic from another state, the parrot was photoshopped out, but not very well.
Going back to a much earlier topic, I just read the following on someone’s profile. Not a bad idea to state this! “If I do not respond to you it simply means that I did not want to waste your time – I will assume the same if I reach out and don’t hear back.”
Elegant — Glad you like them! They’re so addicting! You could seriously spoon the stuff into a pie crust and it would taste like a pie! Good luck with pot #3 this week! I emailed a bit with a pot today and we are planning a phone chat tomorrow. I have a good feeling about it. He’s also an out-of-towner. He’s busy this week but can plan a trip after that, so hopefully it’s not the same pot! That would seriously be my luck. haha
Ha ha, Cali SB. The same pot? Wouldn’t that just be an “As the Stomach Turns” moment? Well, if all goes well this week, we are planning for me to fly to his state the next so if he tells you “something came up” then assume it was me. Ha ha. Just kidding!
I am seriously laughing so hard reading about this PARROT guy. He’s everywhere!!!
This pot lives in a state and city that both end in the same vowel
I’m intruiged by this parrot guy. We need a hall of fame for some of these guys. Fortunately the only HOF’er that has contacted me (that I know of) is namaste. haha
Cali – OMG! You were contacted by Namaste?!! Did he make the same disgusting proposal to you too?
OK, case closed. NOT the same pot! Ha ha. What a funny thought though. An even funnier thought, “THE SD HALL OF FAME”. Oh gosh, that made me belly laugh!
Submissions:
-Parrot Man
-Tuxedo Guy (whom I have not been contacted by, but heard so much about)
-FHM/MAXIM/PLAYBOY photographer (who STILL keeps emailing me!)
-Doctor who cuts/pastes the same form letter to EVERY SB on the site!