In this bustling world of online sugar daddy dating, thousands of seekers are materializing their goals and fantasies with the use of sugar. With all the opportunities in the Sugarbowl, it’s not hard to get lost in the possibilities.
Common Concerns of Newbie Sugars
“What type of pictures should I post? If any?”
“How much time and effort should I expect to exert before I secure a sugar arrangement?”
Choices, choices, choices.
Perhaps there’s a healthy kind of mystery inherent in Sugarland… one that implores us to treat all potentials with respect and honesty…
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
If you give could 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
How are things going in your sugarlife?
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Hey everyone. Working and lurking today.
Hi SDN, Have a good day!
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
No, not really
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
Don’t play games, be as honest as possible , and be upfront
How are things going in your sugarlife?
Sugar life is not going well…
My good genes had a conversation with me when I turned 30 and said, “Elegant, we’ve been holding your weight (literally & figuratively, ha) for a long time now without complaining. We need some help!” – Elegant
HAHAHAHA. Elegant, that made me laugh.. I imagine my genes are going to come knocking on my door right around when 30 rolls around. Luckily I still have quite a handful of years left. But that isn’t any excuse (I KNOW!) But still..
Sigh. The winter makes me bust out the leggings, sweatshirt, chips & salsa and my butt gets quite intimate with my couch.. My body shrieks at the treadmill.
AM, Bella & NYC, the 12th would work for me too! I’ll be arriving after work, so I imagine I won’t be coming in until 8 or 9? I’ll probably have to throw my things into the hotel room but then we’d be ready to go! I can’t wait to meet everyone! =) NYC also has my email, so maybe we can get a mass email rolling.
PS good morning SDN! I didn’t forget you.
Oh questions:
“What type of pictures should I post? If any?” Definitely post pictures. I only posted a picture of my lips/neck/collar bone (ESCANDALO!) & a picture of me, turned to the side – so you could see 1/4 of the profile of my face, side figure/booty/boobies/legs, you know. I didn’t show my face only because of the nature of my job, otherwise I would have no qualms about showing my face.
“How much time and effort should I expect to exert before I secure a sugar arrangement? I’ve always exerted very little. Emails for a week tops, and met up right away. No phone calls and all this back and forth. Typically a handful of emails – I could feel out pots immediately. 1 didn’t like the profile for any reason? Didn’t read the message. 2. Liked the profile, read the message, generic message/crude/vulgar message? Didn’t respond. 3. Liked the message, responded, liked the response- sent my pics, he likes me, set up a date. Voila!
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share? One. Whether to lower my allowance b/c an SD could no longer afford me. We both decided I should cut my losses and move on (he wanted me to find what he felt I deserved) which resulted in dropping my 2nd SD and starting from scratch.
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be? Don’t mention sex, anything sexual etc. until after we meet and agree to be in an arrangement, sheesh.
How are things going in your sugarlife? A+++++++++
Morning all
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
The only ‘tough’ choice I had was the first pot I met with – we hit it off great, but he wasn’t looking for the same type of arrangement I was…so I decided to move on.
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
Be upfront and honest from the beginning.
How are things going in your sugarlife?
I’m happy with the way my life is, in all aspects, right now
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share? The only tough choice was whether or not I should put a profile on the site…I’m not always so good taking care of myself and this is the first time I’ve really went after something “I” want. That was the most nerve-wracking part. Now that I’m here and meeting new people, I don’t regret it at all….having a blast so far.
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be? Know what you want and be honest about it – don’t play games with me, because I won’t play games with you (nor do I have the inclination to do so).
How are things going in your sugarlife? Sugarlife is so-so….still haven’t found my next SD…Talking to some pot SDs and two dates planned this week…We’ll see how things go. I’m keeping sugary thoughts in my mind and I’m motivated to keep going.
And I have, once again, sent the blog into silence!
Hi CA Dreamin…nah, folks are just lurking and working….As for me? I’m sitting here with my snuggie – it’s cold in Virginia and snowed again last night. Yuk! I decided to stay at home (because I can) and will not even bother to step foot outside my door today…
How are you by the way? Hi to all my other blog friends!
Ciao!
Hi VA – I’ve been a little sick the last couple of days. Feeling better today. I don’t have a snuggie! But I do have a nice throw I’m curled up with. Of course, it hasn’t snowed here – just rain, rain and more rain.
I have come to the conclusion that very few SD’s want to give a girl money or an allowance. There are acutally very few of those types of SD’s. If you find one or have one. You are very lucky.
VA you and ESB both are at home *SOB*
We did have the option, but it’s highly looked down upon at my office as we await word from the highest office that issues the weather/you don’t have to come into work orders – and they basically said, suck it up girl and trudge through that snow!
Hi CA and SBnxt
SBnxt – I wouldn’t necessarily say that, my past SDs – 2 were allowance and preferred not to do gifts as they a) didn’t have time to shop with me b) wouldn’t know what to buy me even if they tried/would take too long for them to shop on their own for me and c) found gift cards to be a cheapened version of allowance and disliked it. 1 was a gift daddy because when I first ever began my sugar search that’s all I wanted- now I’m up to my eyeballs in clothes, bags etc. that I have little room for.
My current SD is both. They’re out there. I think natural generosity has a lot to do with it..
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?No and no
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
Make me laugh and we will get along just fine
How are things going in your sugarlife?
I have no complaints
ca dreamin you’re happy with life? weren’t you looking for a job? this mean you get one? (or am i mixing you up with someone else)
anyway if so? congrats
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btw ladies who blog?
i wrote a normal blog for five years and an adult blog for three (some overlapping) and after a while that’s a LOT of posts. be VERY careful showing old blogs to new men, they will assume they know you from your writing and miss meeting YOU
one man told me he wished he didn’t know i had a blog because it left us with no news to share. i don’t even like to friend people on facebook before i meet them now… meet ME, get to know ME and THEN look at my online life.
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i am caring (read visiting for a couple of hours a day) for a very very sick cat while his owner is away (she paid for the trip and THEN he went in to the vet…no refund, she’s poor so she went.) the prognosis isn’t good and it’s killing me because she had to euthanize three older cats over a period of less than a year (the last of the three this past november.)
then this morning the other cat (who is nine month’s old) auntie involved found out her mother died and had to rush to texas. i’m basically just sitting here in COMPLETE shock and very relieved that i don’t have any clients today (pocketbook is not so relieved.)
so i’m pretty out of it anyway but here goes…
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
i have had a long standing ban on married men which is shattering. since i’m 38 this is very strange to my mind. it’s funny though, i would take a single SD in a second and prefer same but somehow the sugar energy exchange makes the act of being the other woman somewhat less objectionable. can’t figure it out but it’s true.
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
be smart… no i mean be really smart.
How are things going in your sugarlife?
what sugar life? i hang out on the blog cause y’all are awesome but sugar? that’s funny
CA Dreamin:
Glad to hear you’re feeling better!
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SBnxtDoor:
I agree with DC SB. I think the “allowance” SDs are out there…its just a matter of finding them. My previous SD gave me an allowance. With my current search, so far I’ve gotten offers of “allowance” in 2 instances but I said “no” b/c of other issues. I’m currently talking to a pot I really like but won’t get to meet for a little bit but he’s ok with an allowance.
Hi Cleo – No, I don’t have a job yet – still looking. BUT – yes, I’m happy with the way life is right now. The right opportunity will come along at the right time.
Dreamin: that’s a nice place to be
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okay seriously what is with all the featured profiles being non premium? i haven’t seen a premium profile featured in ages, that makes no sense…
I think allowance SDs are there as well…the level of allowance they can give may vary a great deal, but I think they’re willing..
Cleo – featured profiles are of those members whose membership just expired… so this way they get exposure… girls write to them and they renew
that Brandon is clever isnt he hahaha
I’m back for a few minutes. I’m feeling guilty about not working. I only had One appointment, and when I called to reschedule, was told to not bother. Im trying to look at it this way, I’mnot making money, but I’m not wasting my gas doing it either!
Baby Girl is getting ready to go shopping. She LOVES to shop, no idea WHERE she gets that from
Cleo, wow, long post, was begining to wonder who you were!! So sorry to hear about the cats. My X got custody of mine when I moved where I am now. I get visitation when I go to pick up or drop off my son, but he is so mad at me for returning him to Daddy, he ignores me when I go to pick him up or or pet him. Poor Oliver!
I miss him, but not cleaning the litter box!
CA Dreaming: love the attitude girl! Keep it up, and the good things you are wishing for will come you way… I keep telling myself that too. Just gotta keep focused on the good in my life right now… great kids, job opening up soon, going to finally get back out on my own, and I have some truely AWESOME friends I met on here who help and encourage me everyday… though some of what I’m encouraged in is a little catty!!
VA, I’m with you on the couch keeping warm, snuggled under a warm throw but the snow is melting, and I can see the road out front now. Couldnt’ say that yesterday, the ice build up is gone.
DC: what you up to now? STill working? Sorry Babe. Someone has to do it. I also managed to fill some more applications out today, on line, so I’m keeping the search going for a new job. Love the Navy sight, jobs for nurses in Hawaii? Man, so gotta get back to school to become one. Could go ANYWHERE then. That would be cool!!
AM, TXSB, SBnxt, and anyone else who is still here… HI!!
SDN, if your still lurking, hello sugar!
“What type of pictures should I post? If any?” Even though i should practice what i preach ( i just dont take pictures often and when i do i have to do them myself)
But they should be of your face, whole body and maybe you out doing something (out with friends,out to dinner, dancing) something.
“How much time and effort should I expect to exert before I secure a sugar arrangement? well i havnt secured one yet, but i dont like to email for weeks and weeks ( i grew out of having pen pals when i was 11) a few emails should decide if you wanna meet that person or not, and i think atleast 2 dates should be enough time to know if an arrangement is something both people would want.
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
One man wont do an arrangement with me because i wouldnt look for other MEN to be in the arrangement with him and I ( and he would be hooking up with the man in the arrangement and me, i wouldnt be with the other guy) im not homo phobic or anything being bi sexual, buttttttttt no. I just didnt want to lol
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
Listen to your gut instinct about flake,fakes,frauds, shady men.
How are things going in your sugarlife?
ehhh could be better,but Im still out there dating pots.
San Diego sb –
For me, once I get to the point of wanting to meet in person, that face-to-face meeting/date (if done right) will let me know whether or not I want an arrangement with a potential SD. Email and phone calls are that initial getting to know you phase and you know if someone isn’t a good fit for you – but in general I agree – weeks and weeks of email just doesn’t work for me.
Maybe I’m impatient – I just think that once I make up my mind, I go forward…
I dont think thats being impatient, you just know what you want. I dont think anyone should settle for anything less than what they deserve.
taylor? lily? i emailed you… did you get it?
Elegant – In response to last blog… My NYC SD knows I blog… he doesnt know that I blog about my sugar adventures as he does not sees himself as an SD… He knows about me blogging about my dating life and such and I told him that most of my posts are about 6 months behind and are only about people that I have ended my encounters with. He didnt have an issue with this.
I am curious to the blogs you are reading… most of the ones on my blog list are really just SBs struggling to find an SD and encountering lots of pay per plays… If you would be so kind to email me the links I would appreciate it…
Oh wow, I’m such an idiot! I was posting away still on the LAST blog post. Duh. I thought I was on IGNORE or everyone called it a day or something! Geez.
As far as photos go…coincidentally that’s what my blog posting on Sugar and the City was related to today
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share? I met one SD I truly liked and was compatible with. He was married and requested I don’t date IRL if we were to start an arrangement. I found this unfair as he was not going to be in my future (I would never want a SD to leave his wife for me). So although we were quite compatible, I turned his offer down.
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be? I truly follow the old arrangement credo of, “You have your life. I have my life. And sometimes we have OUR life.” I ask that you do the same.
How are things going in your sugarlife? Narrowed down to 3 pots, but I’m still not so sure about those 3 and have been teetering on doing a clean sweep and starting over.
CA Dreamin: So funny! I thought I shut the last post down and you guys were all playing over here! Glad you are feeling better.
SBnxtdoor: There are plenty of SDs who offer an allowance. Hang in there and keep looking, they exist. BELIEVE ME.
SDN: Just thought I better say “HI” so you don’t yell at me.
Elegant – sorry we all left you at the last post! I usually write “New topic”…I’m a little slow
Elegantsuger – Darnit girl. stop saying no to photo collector’s. I am one and having a hard time getting the blog SB’s to send them to me because of that kind of talk.
Elegant, I love the pics in your blog.. very cute.
Photo collectors.. I just don’t get it. Who wants to collect a bunch of pictures and never talk to the person again? What exactly is the point?
OH JSO!!! And I was so close to sending you one…then you bust yourself as a photo collector!
Hi everyone. only on for a minute. Have a meetting to go to.
only collect from the girls on the blog…lol
JSO: I had my suspicions about you!!!
DC SB: Photo Collectors live in their parent’s basement, lounge around online all day in unwashed tighty whities and shout, “MA, where’s the meatloaf you promised???” Need I say more?
Oh, DC, thanks for the compliment on my blog photos!
Take care. Have to run.
Haha. JSO is your “meeting” really your mom calling you upstairs for cheese samiches?
At least this is what Elegant tells me.
Elegant, these men sound really ideal. Where is their website? tightywhitielivewithmommyinthebasement30yearold.com? I’d be all over it!
Elegant, they are super cute! especially the chocolate heart.. the one of the heels/cut off photos is that you? If only I had some creativity I’d start my own blog. It’d be a hot mess though. Sigh.
DC: There are actual photos of me plastered all over the blog, but I am not at liberty to admit which ones. When you meet me in person, you will figure it out.
I used to design marketing brochures so that’s where the creativity is from. Little did I know it was going to lead to the success of a Sugar Blog! Har d har.
Well.. you will just have to come to the NYC meet up next wknd, so there.
Am I allowed to tell the entire restaurant you’re ElegantSugar? =)
Elegant – I know which one is you… the photo as your gravatar :p
My guess is Elegant is the Lexus!
DC: One of my pot SDs asked if I wanted to go to NYC for V-Day. Perhaps I will be there! Ha ha. If you told the restaurant, they would be like, “WHO THE HECK is ElegantSugar and why should we care?!”
NYC: that could be one of them. ; )
Sorry guys…back to the SA blog topic. I did not mean to divert the attention away from SA to my little ‘ole blog. Sorry.
Elegant, do it please! My SD is taking me up for Vday as well. Maybe we have the same SD? Oo la la! Ha ha. No, but in all seriousness… if you come, I will keep your secret safe from the restaurant staff. This is definitely blackmail. They might not know who you are, but it will have them thinking, “who is this Elegant Sugar” question mark question mark DUN DUN dunnnn! *lights flicker*
NYC – your latest post is *eye opening* – a robot sex toy. Geeze, what will they think up next? And if they have a Roxxy where is the Maxx? for the ladies?
Still a man’s world, clearly.
Im working on Maxxx as we speak… he will come in 5 umm sizes rather than with 5 personalities
Hahaha. Yes! 5 sizes and give endless backrubs, foot massages and draw bubbles baths without complaint. Joy. Sign me up!
Wow, NYC, Roxxxy has more options than my newest GPS. Frigid Farrah sounds so much more exciting than British Bonnie (the current voice setting in my car’s GPS). Ha!
That’s because Frigid Farrah plays hard to get, and who doesn’t love a chase?
But they should have given the Wild personality more of a stripper name.. Starlyte Applebottom.
Elegant: I appreciate the hello but still waiting on my t-shirt!
SERIOUSLY??? I updated my profile photo and one of my pot SDs sent me a message calling me out on it. I haven’t even made a decision and he KNOWS I am meeting with other pots AND he is MARRIED. GIVE ME A BREAK.
Go to jail, go directly to jail…do NOT pass Go, do NOT collect $200. OVER IT.
Sounds like a stage 9(million) clinger. Pass.
Elegant – hmmm how did he know you changed your photo? oh wait bc he logged in himself… hypocrite
UGH! I guess this was my time to run into challenges since my last two experiences were soooo simple and sooooo wonderful and there wasn’t a lot of searching. Those little “checking up on me” gestures are HUGE reminders as to WHY I don’t date IRL!! If I wanted a jealous boyfriend, I would go out and date one of these Ed Hardy shirt wearing 30K millionaires. Barf.
There is just something about SA SDs (well, not all of course) – but I agree w/ NYC SB, hypocrite. Lame.
How do I link my gravatar to this site? So difficult! :/
DC – go to
en dot gravatar dot com
You have to use the same email address to set up an account as you use to login here.
I would post the link for you, but I don’t think that is allowed. I have been unknowingly and *illegally* posting hyperlinks within my blog postings. Oopsie.
Oh I see it now!
It’s so tiny……. *busts out microscope*
I only still see a white box for you, DC. (???)
Ugh. I’m so ticked about this pot taking the time to comment on my new photo. That is the first time anything like this has happened to me.
k hopefully next pic comes out better. sigh. everyone is lurking, no one is talking.
Really? I see it, but terribly disappointed with it.. let me try something else (could be because I changed my pic as soon as it popped up for me).
How old is this pot? 18? Ha. ha. K not so funny, but you get it.
Did you say anything to him about calling you out on it? Like stop being a 4 year old and you two aren’t even in an arrangement yet, and he’s got a WIFEY.
I know. I’m going to have to step away and do a kettlebell workout or something! Break away from this addiction. The downside to my job is that I’m in an office most days (my own home office) so I manage my own hours so it’s easy to be on the blog constantly!
DC – I see your avatar!
He took the time to compliment my new photo, saying it was better than the last one and should get me lots of responses.
I wrote back and said, “Thank you! I think so too!”
I have been honest the ENTIRE time about “searching for the right SD” too and making a decision very soon, but not right away. And supposedly he supported that and said he understood. I guess I smashed his EGO or something. The changing of my photo meant I wasn’t going for Bachelor number 1 and opting for what’s behind Curtain number 2.
Yay CA sees my avatar! Yes. I’m not a white box anymore. As fun as it was being a white box..
Elegant I’m the same way, 99% of my job revolves around the computer, and I multitask so I go back and forth between all of the little goodies I have to take care of.
Hahaha Elegant! That was the BEST response – you are quite witty. I bet that has him reeling!
Serves him right for saying some snide sarcastic douche-baggy little comment. Ew, def pass on him. Who wants a whiney attention whore? Zzz
Fever.
feel so yick. Need to heal before monday’s trip. 
Cleo-no,computer died. Haven’t read it on phone. Will now.
Sorry you are under the weather, Lily. Get better!
Hey, I just tried to write back to some SDs who wrote to me and my email isn’t working on SA. I went to my ’sent’ box and the messages weren’t there. (???) Plus, I read all of my mail, but they are still showing up as bold and as new messages.
Is anyone else experiencing those issues with SA today or lately?
Whoops only just now re-read the last few comments on the previous blog-
NYC I sent you my email.
Hi HL back
Elegant, I’m in my low 20s and I’m definitely not as demanding as these apparent 20somethings are.. I think it’s all about maturity, and a TON of girls my age are still acting like their 15.
Probably an exception to the rule, but we do exist =)
Also- have hid my profile and haven’t logged in since meeting my SD, not really sure about the tech difficulties :/
Elegant, I would wait & not resend the email, lest you send the same message twice. I’m sure it’ll hash itself out soon.
done w/ work. off for the night. g night sugar bunnies!
& VA would appreciate this one: Smooches and kisses! haha =)
Sorry just transferred from the last blog post:
Elegant – Yes the young SBs are demanding. One I chatted with wanted $500 just to go to dinner with me. Needless to say I passed. I have no problem with financial support just not until I know if there is chemistry between us.
OC – Chez Nous was delightful and even better my french SB was even better. We really clicked. And truthfully she isn’t so much an SB as a LTR and I am thrilled. Next date will be dinner, wine, french cheese, chocolate and french movies at my place. It is going to be awesome.
Oh and my avatar now works!!!
Austin SD – That sounds wonderful! Glad you found a great one!
DC – I’m so going to get you when I see you in a couple of weeks! OMG – I was drinking at the time I got to your post! That is so wrong!!
Not much going on for me today…Still nothing yet DC and ESB….stupid, dumb sugar-search!!
Okay, now that I have that off my chest. Elegant, I went to your blog and it was great. I’m now a follower!!
Good for you AustinSD – I hope it works out for you.
CA – Thanks we click on so many levels now the hard/fun work starts.
Cleo, i spent twenty minutes writing you mail on my little phone, then it says gmail is temp unavailable.
so pissed. That and my fever and nausea. Most of my comments had to do with the photos, though. Get a self timer, a bunch of time and costume changes, and take a few hundred self portraits so you can really show off your pilates body, smile, and long curly hair. You could look so sexy, i am dead certain, but those photos aren’t doing you any favors, considering the male mindset….
Bye, DC! Have an awesome night chica bonita!
VA: Thanks for following my blog. I am trying to spin my blog in a way that will be informative as well as entertaining, as well as offering a better understanding of what Sugar life is. I really don’t like keeping such a big secret from my family and friends and mostly it is because people just don’t understand what an arrangement truly is. I want to explain things in a way so that others will not look at the Sugar life with such disdain. I mean, we are not street walkers turning tricks, you know? I digress.
Great avatar, AustinSD and congrats on things going so well for you so far with this new pot SB!
From what I can tell just from this blog, many SBs are smart, intelligent, career-minded, creative, outgoing, (some are sweetly shy), beautiful, fun and extremely articulate. The SDs (from the blog) and most I have met in person, are extremely nice, decent, amazingly generous, classy, funny, intelligent and (almost) ALL have proven to me that chivalry is not dead. I learned so much from my past SDs and both helped me with all of my business endeavors. I mean, arrangements just MAKE SENSE.
*stepping down from soapbox*
Congratulations AustinSD! Nice to hear your date went well
Not here for too long and just wanted to say congrats! You too Lily, way to go and I’m so jealous that you’re going to Germany. I’ve always wanted to go! Maybe one day
Back to catching up
I don’t care about germany but excited to bond with new SD!
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
Yes…too often unacceptable comprimses are expected..
If you give 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
You are nothing if not a gentleman.
How are things going in your sugarlife?
Horrifically. My first date after joining was just so…wrong… that I almost don’t even want to meet any of the pots I am queing and just take a break instead.
A sugar relationship just ended despite my hopes that it would be longer term. He was such a great guy, but if only I could get him to understand why pay per date situations are just not okay, and that it is just not okay to come in under your stated budget. I knew early on that his net worth was more mammoth than he had listed (which was quite high as it was. I was amazed at the 10 seconds it took me to confirm his identity with just a common first name, title, and city). I still try to think of him as the hero that offered to come rescue me when my car got towed (before we had even met, the fact discovered while we were texting.) He is incredibly kind….but why the hang up with an allowance? My request was very modest, within his stated budget, and but a drop in the bucket. It is not my fault that he is so busy
I am still painfully in love with Quarters (see blog), it is killing me. I need to use this constructively and go for a long run or something
Also, I was amused to recently find a former IRL daddy pot on this site after having mentioned it to him awhile back. I had thought it would be a good way to originally breech the subject since he seemed to want to date, but I am just not into doing the ‘normal’ dating thing for now. He would have been quite eligible as an SD had he been a little more decisive and far less inconsiderate..hmm so maybe not so eligible but still cute with the appropriate assets, and I’m sure someone here can show him the light.
After reading some of the other girls’ blogs as therapy, I realized that I really needed to start my own as a much needed outlet. I figured it would be a good way to chronicle my new and old experiences and might even provide some entertainment and insight for others. When I have time, I might even include some stories from my days of scrubbing floors in sweet little nothings. Hmm maybe I should take a break from sugarland and go back to being a maid. Decisions decisions…
Good evening all…I am seriously in need of a vacation!
oooh – even better – I need to have a Super Bowl party
Elegant – Unravelling duct tape.
Btw even special forces use those plastic ties you can find at Home Depot to secure prisoners, but rope is used instead of duct tape.
Though I agree there are many great SDs and many great SBs, a great SD may not be compatible with a great SB. Which makes probabilities hard. So for every great SB the chances of finding a compatible great SD are low (vice versa as well). The journey is tough though the destination is sugary.
Anna Molly – Guten nacht, bist du gut. Deutschland bis kalt. I m sechs oder acht wochen bis heisser.
All – Rough few months for SD, but as he explained to me people on Wall Street will have a great year, two good years, two average years and one stinky year as part of a cycle – it must be tough to go through a stinky year though.
I’ll answer the second topic question: any tips? yes, don’t flake and be on time. Anecdote (warning: venting to follow):
Had a pot completely flake on me a couple months ago (no show for first date, no explanation) who kept agitating for another chance. So I finally relented. Spoke on phone Sunday, agreed to meet today at 6:30 p.m. at Starbucks (i have one word for Starbucks — yuck — but that’s what she wanted). So ok, agreed, subject to our confirming by text the “day of.”
Texted AND emailed today at noon seeking confirmation, are we still on? No answer (and she logged into SA at 2 p.m. so I know she was at a computer). Finally 7 p.m., half hour after appointed date, I get text: “sorry, couldn’t make it [no explanation] can we meet tmw? Me: “Sorry, No.” Her: “why not?” Me: “Bec. I need a more reliable SB, I texted and emailed 7 hrs. ago to confirm, got no answer, and this is second time you’ve flaked on me. Enuf. Sorry.” Her: “K have a nice life.” Me: “U 2, best wishes.”
NY Gent – Girls like her give SB’s a bad name!
Wouldn’t it be great if we could ‘ding’ people’s profiles when they act rudely or inappropriately? So many dings and they get removed
Ca Dreamin: it’s actually much more common than you’d think. You would think that if somebody stands you up the first time and gets a second chance, there would be a very low percentage flake factor for second date. It’s actually the opposite: a first time flaker is much more likely to stand you up again than your average person on the street (Just like somebody who commits a crime, is caught, goes to jail, and is let out, is much more likely to commit the same crime again than your average person, i.e., a high “recidivist” rate).
Looks like all the regulars are here! Evening all!! The shopping trip went very well, Baby Girl even bought us supper… 2 cups of frozen yogurt! YUMMMM… can’t eat anything again til breakfast. I was SO bad diet wise today.
I agree that there are some awesom SBs on this blog. I have met 2 of the best!! (kisses and smooches!!
) I can’t wait to meet more of you, and hopefully a SD or 2. You all seem so wonderful on here, can only imagine that you are even more special in person!
CA Dreamin: Supper bowl parties are the best. I make a great Artichoke/spinach dip that is out of this world!! (OK, I buy it from Harry and David’s) Always a favorite at any party I bring it to! But I DO make a great crab cheese ball that is all the rave also. Sorry, am NOT allowed to give the recipe. Won it in a bet! Swore to never share it.
SFS: I totaly understand wanting to give up the search, but after DCs match made in heaven, I have a renewed hope! Elegant sounds like she has a great one also, and so many others talk about how great the guy they found is. I think my problem is my age. Late 40’s is not what the guys are looking for. I think they want some YOUNG hot thing. I usually get told I DO NOT look my age, and the guys who ask me out are usually 5 – ? (One was 19 years younger!!) So, I guess I just keep waiting. I know he is out there, just got to be patient.
Maxx in different sizes… DC and VA, you KNOW what I’m thinking… yes, there is such a thing as too big Virginia! LMAO!!
Darn it, that Flo keeps escaping…
I need to keep her further away from the counter at Hertz where the computer is.
I hear you though, Flo. Great SBs and Great SDs on the same site does not equal to an immediate sugary happy ending! (Pun totally not intended!) Give me the keyboard back, Flo… *minor scuffle…*
NYGent: I wouldn’t even DARE try for a second date if I flaked on the first one. Never have flaked actually so what do I know. She was SO LUCKY you gave her chance two!
elegant: as someone (I forget who) on the blog said, I follow the modified baseball rule: two strikes and you’re out.
Elegant – THAT’S what I’m saying! I can’t believe she’d do it twice after he gave her a 2nd chance. I’d NEVER cancel on anyone. A date is a date…very very few valid reasons for cancelling, and never at the last minute.
ESB: Glad you had a terrific shopping day! Love me some frozen yogurt too!
NYGent: Well, what a gentleman you are. And I agree with CA Dreamin’…there should be a way to flag profiles! Some dating sites have areas where you can leave comments on a person’s profile. Never thought I was *for* that…but with this type of pursuit, I can see where it would come in handy!
I always confirm and I will text if I’m running late. These girls need to learn some manners!
Even though I guess my schedule is tighter than 90% of the SBs I set dates with, I have yet to cancel a pot date, I will move mountains to make it happen. It is just such a let-down to the other person to cancel. I realize there are situations where it’s unavoidable, but when somebody offers no excuse/explanation whatsoever it is a huge red flag.
I just posted a profile to sd.com and they edited it saying that you can not ask for financial support in your profile. Then why don’t they change the name of the site to takeyoutodinnerandbuyyoushoes.com. It’s the same profile that I have on SA. How about Wasteofmytime.com. I need an attitude adjustment.
Elegant: i’m not really into “hall of shame” type lists on the blog, tempting as it is.
What about sudden fever/illness? I was trying to meet someone today, non-sugar at five thirty and at precisely five fifteen, heading out the door, fever-climbing-fast hit me and I felt so woosy that I needed to sit down and call to cancel, since it was nothing time sensitive.
SBnxt: I am so sorry. I’m to discouraged to try another sight. Keep your hopes up hun. It’ll happen.
NYGent: I give you credit for giving her a 2nd chance. Doubt I would have. I know how disapointing it is to be stood up. Even by close friends. Happens to me way to offen. (thinking I need new friends, like the ones I met on here!!
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Taylor/Lili: from your standpoint, last minute sickness is a reasonable excuse. I have to say from an SD’s standpoint, if I got an email 15 minutes before the date saying “too sick to make it” I’d have some level of skepticism. If it was first date I’d likely say fine and give another chance. If it was second cancelation I’d probably say two strikes you’re out.
Elegant – stop putting me in stress positions and absolutely no waterboarding and chinese water drip torture. Have you been to Macao – I can see you gambling there? PS i’ve now applied to Citigroup’s distressed debt modeling in their infrastructure group in London, fingers and toes crossed that I get the job
NYGent – freeloading on top of
NYGent’s item – here are top tips to give SB’s wanting to date a real SD.
1 – Be super responsive in terms of responding (but not too responsive that he thinks you’re desperate)
2 – Don’t be stingy with available dates and don’t act like your bartending job retail job, school is more important than his time
3 – Bring up concept of allowance early and ask what an ideal SD-SB relationship is
4 – Don’t be snappy – be fun
5 – Be understanding of SDs moods and stress points and schmooze
6 – Follow through on everything you say you’ll do and be clear what you won’t do
7 – Donlt lead SD’s on when there’s no chemistry – don’t think i’ll try – it just won’t work
8 – Donlt be unreasonable on terms BUT protect yourself if he flakes or is not whom he says he is
9 – Zero drugs, drama, diseases – puhleeze
10 – Be open and honest in comms – be straightforward and easy to deal with if you have conflicts
11 – Compromise – if it’s not a big deal take it off the table if he’ll take something off the table too
12 – Always think of safety and integrity and act accordingly
13 – Always make him feel that you really like him )and be genuine about it)
14 – Don’t be greedy asking for more shopping, gifts, hinting on more allowance (stick to what you agreed to)
Harder to do in practice though.
Got to run – super busy recently. ciao peeps
I know. The “hall of shame” is not exactly a mature approach (2 wrongs don’t make a right kind of thing…), but the frustrations get the best of you!
“hen why don’t they change the name of the site to takeyoutodinnerandbuyyoushoes.com.” – SBnxtdoor
THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!
The worse flakes are if you’re holding a free ticket for someone – it didn’t cost them anything and they swap out your event for something else going on in the city. I don’t get stood up often but it happens to everyone – even from good friends.
SBnextdoor: I was on SD.com at one time and think it’s a fine site, although it suffers from ambiguous format. As somebody (I think AustinSD) observed, there is no question, like the one on SA, that asks the SB: “how much do I want financially.” There is instead a check the box which says “seeking strictly SB relationship” versus “not limited to SB relationship.” Despite this, I found that 90% of the SBs who listed “not strictly Sb relationship” were, in fact, seeking a regular allowance, but for one reason or another (whether embarrassment, or whatever) didn’t want to actually say that in their profile. So in the end I found the SBs on that site and SA are pretty much the same in terms of what they’re looking for. But because of the ambiguity, SD.com may attract more SDs who are unwilling to pay an allowance and just looking to be gift daddies or BFs. I know it will come as a surpise to Sbs on this site that the SDs here are more willing to pay allowance than just about any other site, but I think it’s the truth.
Sbnxtdoor, hilarious. Allowance forbidden to mention on a sugar baby profile. No thanks!! Although, the reason I’m thinking that my newSD feels so right is because I don’t care about the allowance, don’t feel glad that it’s all-my-bills for one date per month, -feel bummed because I want to see him more. Remember when I was talking about calculating allowance divided by number of meets a few days ago and sort of wanting the sum to be at a certain level so that it feels/seems generous and not piddling/miserly compared to their wealth/capacity? To feel really valued, ya know…? Well. That’s all out the window, and happily so…. I don’t care about that, just want to spend time with him and of course grateful and happy my bills will be covered and that’s that. He can do more and I could try to ask for a higher allowance but he wants to be a gift daddy for the rest and I like suprises, so..:) yay! I didn’t even negotiate. He made an offer and I said yes , thank you, without hesitation.
sugar bliss. 
Wow Flo Rida that list was awesome, and spot on.
Lily – I’m with NYGent – I think a sickness 15 minutes before we’re supposed to meet is skeptical…not that it doesn’t happen and I’m sure you’re being genuine. I suppose that’s just my doubtful nature with those things
Argh, I thought sugarbowl relationships are supposed to be NSA.
I think my SB has fallen for me. I tried to break it off with her late last year but we continued to see each other. I wanted to see her do well and provided her with next semesters tuition and some allowance to as she is working less to attend college. I have tried to distance myself but she has become more clingy and more depressed. Inevitably when we get together we become intimate.
Being a white knight doesn’t pay off, imho.
As if that wasn’t enough, I’ve been following IRL SD’s doctrine too closely. In the course of trying to end the relationship, I started a new relationship with a 2nd SB in December.
Either Sb is aware of the other and I’m not particularly proud of “cheating” on each of them.
I don’t know how SD manage to have 2 SB because it is a lot of work to keep 2 women happy and somewhat costly.
Not sure how I get myself into these predicaments or why I keep encountering cupid’s arrows in my sugarbowl. If I wanted love, I be looking for a mistress instead of a SB.
I would rather some one called me 15 min. prior than just not show up at all. I’d sort out the believability factor later. Hate sitting waiting for someone who flakes on me.
Awesome list, Flo!! Will you be a guest sugar on my blog?
Number 7 is something I have been guilty of and will never do again. I feel badly about it now. But must move on.
Flo, awesome list, well said!
Sincere, welcome back, been a while! Sorry about your luck. Maybe if you weren’t so darn charming!!
I gotta get to bed. Work has a way of keeping me busy, and since I took a snow day, I really shouldn’t complain!
See ya all tomorrow. Sugar HUGS!!
So…. hopefully you guys will be busily planning a euro meet while I sleep… Mwah!! Good night.
Sincere!! How nice to see you!! Hope everything works out for you! How come you’ve been a stranger lately?
Sincere: I can’t remember if you are married. If yes, then agree, having her fall for you in a big way, when you’re not looking for that at all, is kind of a bummer.
As a single SD I have (or have had) the opposite problem, falling for an SB in a big way and her not genuinely falling for me. I keep telling myself i have to rid this whole concept of any notion of romanticism and sentimentality, but old habits die hard.
Elegant: don’t be too hard on yourself on #7, esp. if it was a first or early SD relationship. I think some SBs who are new to the sugar world go into it with the idea of “grinning and bearing it” in order to get the $$. Certainly if you watch the old movies of the ’30s that’s how SBs (they were called golddiggers in those days) thought about it. It takes a while to come to the view that SB arrangements are not that dissimilar to IRL dating, sans the drama and avec special benefits.
Goodnight all – loading up on Nyquil and crawling into bed!
AM – Haven’t had time to post or follow the blog. My day consist of work, gym and either activities with either my kids, sb1 or sb2. Weekends are kids in the afternoon or sb dates or helping them with errands.
NYG – Yes, I’m married and it’s been hard to deal with cupid’s side effects … calls in the middle of the night to say how much she misses me or her wanting to be close to me all the time.
I’m a romantic too which is why I initially found sugarlife hard to deal with. Out of the 6 relationships I’ve had, I fell in love once and had 2 SB fall in love with me.
There’s a certain bond and attraction that develops when you spend time with someone who would otherwise be your soulmate (if you hadn’t meet in sugarbowl).
I also wonder in retrospect whether my SB are in love with the treatment as opposed to being in love with me.
ESB: I agree, I prefer a call 15 minutes before to total flaking. but if i don’t get the call until 15 minutes before, I’ve already committed to the date, given up my evening, probably made the restaurant reso, and 9 times out of 10 I’m already there because as the guy I always want to make sure I’m there before her and she doesn’t have to wait around alone waiting for me to arrive. So for me there is little practical diff between a no show and a cancel 15 minutes before. A cancel two hours before would be much more helpful and thoughtful.
Sincere you are one very busy man! It’s good to see you back even if it’s just for a little while
Wrt SD.com, I’m not a big fan of that site.
1. It is hard to distinguish between woman looking for LTR vs MBR. I think they would be better served to have a category for LTR only as opposed to either “strictly SB” or “open to both”.
2. I have found the LTR members to be extremely judgemental towards MBR. I have also had this opinion validated by pot SBs I dated from there.
3. SB can not communicate with you unless they are also paying members.
I do find the site useful to crosscheck profiles from SA.
Hi NYGent….it’s good to see you too
SincereSD-human nature is what it is. Sometimes love is unrequited. I don’t know how people can compartmentalize their feelings. I suppose some gals choose an SD that they absolutely won’t fall in love with. He has some fatal flaw that would make true couple-hood impossible. The “treatment” is part of who you are and so when chemistry and physical attraction are there also, it is part of a recipie for love or heartbreak. Who knows what the other ingredients are, it’s different for all of us. I’d rather take the off chance that although I am not looking for a boyfriend or husband right now, I will go with it and see what happens. I’m trying very hard to be miss NSA, but I’m hardwired for commitment.
Hi everyone!
Sincere~ Wow, 2 SBs! But, if i remember correctly, the first SB taking advantage of you? I know you want to help and such but…. You are too nice a guy!
NYGent~ Hi, if someone Flakes on you and doesn’t call to me that’s a bad sign.. NEXT!
Anna~ hi
SBnxtdoor~ I think it’s all different for everyone. There is one SD that I met that I totally clicked with, and probably would not have minded if it was more than just a SB/SD relationship… but He already has a SB… very sad for me!
My first SD was married, yes I did have feelings for him…not sure it was love though
NYGent says: Even though I guess my schedule is tighter than 90% of the SBs I set dates with, I have yet to cancel a pot date, I will move mountains to make it happen. It is just such a let-down to the other person to cancel.
I am the same way and always honor my commitments. I am surprised at how disorganized some women are … always late (sometimes by an hour) or missing dates. And when I get annoyed they just laugh it off, thinking their modelish good looks let them get away with such behavior.
Anna Molly says: I always confirm and I will text if I’m running late. These girls need to learn some manners!
I couldn’t agree more in both respects.
Sincere: you are very right on some of the modelish types shrugging it off as if you’re some sort of nerd or control freak if you object to their being 45 minutes to an hour late without explanation. This is generally a phenomenon of those under 25, although I’ve found some under 25’s to be extremely punctual and courteous and some over 30’s to be extremely indifferent to being on time and meeting your schedule (often because they are ex-models who yearn for the long-lost days when mankind worshipped at their feet and overlooked their lack of courtesy)
SBnxtdoor – I am also hardwired for commitment. Thought the SD/SB lifestyle makes a lot of sense for me, I know myself well enough to know I will fall and fall hard. That is why I am on SD not SA. I need a woman that is open and looking for LTR.
NYGent~ over 30S to be extremely indifferent??? I am on time and always call to confirm! and yes I am over 30! We are not all like that…
Lily says: He can do more and I could try to ask for a higher allowance but he wants to be a gift daddy for the rest and I like suprises, so..:) yay! I didn’t even negotiate. He made an offer and I said yes , thank you, without hesitation.
sugar bliss. 
Personally I find it hard to be a gift daddy as b
AustinSD: I would just caution that many of the women on SD.com who say “not strictly SB relationsip” don’t mean it, they are just as committed to wanting an allowance and strict SB/SD relationship, without an LTR, as those here on SA, but for one reason or another they just don’t want to admit that their profile and will therefore list “not strictly SB relationship.” In other words the SBs on SA are more honest in their desires, facilitated by the “how much $$$ do you want” format.
I LOVE nerds.
Just thought I’d slip that in as I lurk…
sweety: I said “some” over 30’s, not all!
NYGent~ oups , blushing…. Yes, I see that now… sorry lol…
Elegant~ I love nerds too…
NY Gent said: …”some over 30’s to be extremely indifferent to being on time and meeting your schedule (often because they are ex-models who yearn for the long-lost days when mankind worshipped at their feet and overlooked their lack of courtesy)”
I don’t think that’s an ex-model thing. I think that is an INCONSIDERATE, SELFISH PERSON (no matter what their current or past profession is) KIND OF THING.
Just sayin’….
I am highly attracted to the nerdy quirky type of men. I love them!
Hey I’m a geek – does that count?
Lily says: He can do more and I could try to ask for a higher allowance but he wants to be a gift daddy for the rest and I like suprises, so..:) yay! I didn’t even negotiate. He made an offer and I said yes , thank you, without hesitation.
sugar bliss. 
Personally I find it tough to be a gift daddy as buying meaningful gifts is hard work. Also I’ve found that some SB dont recognize the value of your gifts and expectations vary widely as the boundaries are not set or well understood. I had a SB accuse me of being cheap after spending over 5k on gift in a month because she couldnt add.
I would also think as a gift SB, it’s nice but doesnt pay the bills and you run the risk of not receiving the right value.
I like to have an agreed upon allowance. I treat gifts as bonuses and an expression of my appreciation.
SBnxtdoor says: I just posted a profile to sd.com and they edited it saying that you can not ask for financial support in your profile. Then why don’t they change the name of the site to takeyoutodinnerandbuyyoushoes.com. It’s the same profile that I have on SA. How about Wasteofmytime.com. I need an attitude adjustment.
SBnxtdoor, you are too funny. I choked over my tea reading your post and will be sending you a bill for a new laptop if the keyboard doesnt work properly.
AustinSD: just to illustrate, often I would contact SBs on the SD.com site who had listed “not strictly SD relationship,” and when I would explore possibility of a gift or travel type arrangement, their reaction would be “WTF, this is a SUGARDADDIE site after all, get with the program!” or words to that effect. If I were you I would really take with a grain of sale the “not strictly SD relationship” box check. Pay more attention to what they say in their profile text, sometimes that will tip you off as to what they’re really looking for.
My all-time favorite SB date was with an SB on the SD.Com site who said in her profile, ” I Will not respond to anyone who is married OR WHO OFFERS ME AN ALLOWANCE.” Now that was a breath of fresh air.
Austin~ yes! lol
AustinSD: “grain of salt” not grain of sale (!)
AustinSD: I LOVE Geeks and Nerds both! There are many, many reasons why too. I think my female peers are missing out when they overlook the nerds and geeks.
The terms have changed over the years. When I was in high school it was less pejorative (“brains”). Then it became dorks. Then nerds. Then (and I guess now) geeks.
Sweety – over 30 is cool.
ElegantSugar – I hate to be stereotypical but most models I’ve know have been less than punctual.
AustinSD – Never say never but I would imagine the transition from MBR to LTR would be a tough one.
SincereSD: One of your SBs actually called you cheap after you gave her a GIFT?? Geez. I would never. I mean, it’s a GIFT. I don’t care if it was an adjustable ring. Talk about biting the hand…
Sincere~ I know, It’s just harder for us SBs that are over 35
The transition from MBR (or pot MBR) to LTR is rare, but I think some (OC, IIRC) have managed to pull it off, moving from SD (or pot SD) to IRL BF. Maybe NYC SB has also. Not the norm, but nice if it happens.
NYGent – I am carefully reading the profiles and many of the women I am interested in are very clearly not seeking an SD/SB only relationship. They may be like me and signed up with that in mind and then changed their minds. I am having a fantastic hit rate there versus traditional dating sites.
Elegant – I love you for promoting geek and nerd love!!! Did I mention I have this thing for tall Asian women?
Believe me, Sincere, you are absolutely right. I DO know how inconsiderate and ‘flighty’ models can be. They are generally culpable for making just about ANYTHING fall behind schedule and then act as if they are not the ones ones to blame since they are the “talent.” Clearly, this is very, very true. But I think there are many other PEOPLE in general (regardless of profession) who are just as inconsiderate.
SDAustin: yes, no doubt the hit rate for SDs on almost any SD/SB site, especially SDs over 40, is going to be way higher than on sites like Match or Eharmony, where women are more or less looking for somebody their own age or maybe 5 years older (and the women are kind of blah compared with those on the SB sites).
NY Gent: I need you to translate all of those acronyms so I can add them to the section of my blog titled, “Sugar Speak Guide”. Ha ha. You lost me at OC IIRC. Or are you referring to OCSugarbaby? So confused.
AustinSD: And how many tall Asian women have you actually encountered? Ha ha.
ElegantSugar says: I LOVE Geeks and Nerds both!
Not sure I even know what the word “nerd” means nowadays. One of my previous SB claims she is a nerd but yet parties hard, drinks like a camel and snorts lines like a hover vac.
ElegantSugar says: One of your SBs actually called you cheap after you gave her a GIFT?? Geez. I would never. I mean, it’s a GIFT.
Yes she was ungrateful and disrespectful … and totally stunned when I added up what her gifts had been for the month.
Elegant: This is amazing. I am so un-hip when it comes to all these internet abbreviations and have finally found somebody way hipper than me (i.e you) who knows less than me! you made my day . . .
“OC (IIRC)” = OC Sugarbaby (If I Recall Correctly) . . .
Elegant: also, for your blog, if you google any of these inscrutable acronyms it will generally immediately give you the definition.
Elegant: I do think a “Glossary of Sugar Terms” is a great idea for your blog. MBR. LTR. NSA (although dispute as to whether it means “no strings attached” or “no sex allowed”). “Gift Daddy.” “Travel Daddy.” “No Drama.” “Exclusive/Non-Exclusive.” IRL BF/GF. Etc. etc.
nite all.
Oooh, thanks, NYGent! I will do that. Oh, and you think I’m HIP? Oh, he likes me. He reeeeally likes me.
Sweety: I had feelings for my married SD too. But didn’t realize how special he really was to me until after the fact. Not feelings as in “leave your wife and run off into the sunset with me” feelings, but genuine feelings of affection towards him as a person. I learned a lot from my experiences. I wasn’t horrible to him at all during our time together, but honestly, I just wasn’t aware the entire time. I feel (now) that I prevented us from growing more fully and having a more enriched relationship because I had a narrow set of limited notions about us JUST being an arrangement. Having reached this realization is what inspired my post about dropping the “Me First” attitude. I was the one guilty of that. I am so thankful he and I still speak and are friends because I was able to apologize to him sincerely and admit my human error. He was the epitome of an ideal SD too. I just didn’t see it then.
Good night NYG.
ElegantSugar says: And how many tall Asian women have you actually encountered? Ha ha.
Only one and she was technically Jamaican but looked 100% asian!
ElegantSugar says: One of your SBs actually called you cheap after you gave her a GIFT?? Geez. I would never. I mean, it’s a GIFT.
I remember the argument now. She was upset I bought a classic Burberry Tote bag for her birthday when she wanted the Burberry quilted patten leather shoulder bag. Needless to say that was the less time we saw each other.
Well, she did have good taste in handbags selecting the quilted over classic…but still, what a BLEEPITY BLEEP. I mean, really. Burberry is Burberry is Burberry…
And she didn’t have to pay for it!!
Some women…
Sincere – SD asked me if I would be with him if he was poor. I responded ‘I must admit I like you with your money but bear in mind I can always find someone else with money but I chose you, and you can always pick someone else who isn’t asking for financial support and you picked me – so it’s a good match’ Yes love the treatment but also respect the man.
Elegant – you have a blog? whiskey tango foxtrot? Btw I’ve never read NYCSB’s blog – another thing I have to do. i’ll look at it eventually.
Sincere – a nerd can be someone who is smart and can party hard – it doesn’t necessarily mean socially plagued.
Lastly I have to admit I was a bitch in my twenties – the worse things I did was steal boyfriends (with or without intimacy) from my girlfriends when I wanted to spite them (GFs that is) and once an older man was annoying hitting on me at a party and I just shouted out ‘Hey does anyone have any blow – the old fat guy wants a line’ – he looked so embarrased. Other men who would hit on me I would say ‘Who are you, you don’t have permission to talk to me’. i’m less mean now as i’m more into karma, but like Dorian Grey – Oscar Wilde – I have a painting somewhere that is malformed and hideous from my accumulated sins.
Nite all
NYGent – I grew up in London and still have my Aquascutum trench coat which I bought instead of a Burberry. Burberry has become a uniform for yobo pretenders (forgotten the sobriquet given to them by the London press) and i’m not a fan BUT it’s a gift and good manners mean a gift should be accepted with grace and decorum.
Good night Elegant and Flo.
Flo it’s GREAT to see you back on the blog. Love your perspective comments. You just hit on the sensitive nerve of most sugar relationships … SD fear that SB are only with them for the money … and SB fear their SD is only with them for their hot looks and sex.
Flo: I love the Dorian Grey reference!
“My dear boy, no woman is a genius. Women are a decorative sex. They never have anything to say, but they say it charmingly.”
Watched it with my dad one Sunday on AMC. (1945 version, not 2009)
That movie is probably why I wasn’t one of those bitchy, boyfriend stealing, rude to all men kind of girls in my 20’s. Though, I was rude to a guy in a bar once who tried the, “Why don’t you and I go back to my place” line on me. I responded, “I don’t know. Can two people fit under a rock?” It was the first night I ever got drunk. I was 26.
Good night, Sincere! Yes, those are definite Sugar fears. What a tangled web we do weave…
SBnxt: I attempted to join that site recently. It does seem a bit ridiculous…my profile was first denied for being too short and not including enough about myself, and when I tried again I wasn’t even notified of the second denial, my login just ceased to exist. Perhaps the second profile I submitted was too long /shrug. The whole situation brings to mind Craigslist ‘job’ postings where they want you to make a monetary deposit in order to work for them for free. Really?
After reading the blip on classifications there, I personally read “open to more than strictly sb/sd” as meaning open to the possibilities of romance or a ltr, not meaning ‘no allowance’ and the “strictly sb” as being geared more towards fwb/nsa situations. I think this might be how they explained it on their site, but I’m not certain as it all seemed so ill defined…it really would make so much more sense for the issue of support to be dealt with separately. In the normal world, it would be considered far more common for committed girlfriends and wives to get an allowance vs. a casual relationship, so I would be slow to assume that a ltr in sugarland equals no allowance.
I don’t think people ever get involved in a sugar relationship with the intentions of falling in love, and might even believe they are immune to such folly. Being the one to get hit with a stray arrow is not at all pleasant. Regarding Sincere’s situation – it’s surprising to hear that a SB would be so indiscreet with her phone calls when involved with a married man, sounds like someone might need a spanking lol.
Also, no one wants to deal with inconsiderate people who never leave their high horse, but it seems like making the assumption that if a person is attractive their tardiness is most likely due to lack of consideration would lead to uncalled for apathy. None of us are perfect and running a little late can be distressful enough without having to worry if an apology will be snubbed. I know those statements are being aimed more at situations where it is obvious, but prejudices have a way of creeping out of their boundaries. What man here would want negative assumptions placed on them simply because they are wealthy? And yet unfortunately, that happens as well.
Eep.. Apparently, I need to practice being less verbose or just learn to say less, sorry lol >.<
I enjoy your verbosity!!
Hey guys!
Sorry I haven’t been able to blog lately.
I will give you guys a sugar update pretty soon!
I miss you all!
Tickets to cologne confirmed. Sincere quoted me re: my gift daddy and discussed advantages of allowance vs. Vague Gifts. I totally agree. He’s planning on doing both-paying enough allowance for my basic monthly bills so that’s off my mind AND doing the gift daddy thing, in suprise format. As for the dating schedule, he plans to be able to see me when he’s in my city, about once per month. I like this for so many reasons, …except the infrequent dates… But about the sugar coming from his end, a relatively generous allowance that allows me to continue to live in style in the center of the capital city, but not much else, and when we are together he wants to take me shopping himself to spoil me with the ‘extras.’ now I have also safetynetSDguy, also providing an allowance in the amount of my living expenses, but he’s getting so in love, calling and hoping to see me EVERY Day, and generally wearing thin on my nerves. But it simply feels wise to have a sugar backup, and he is smart and sexy and I’d feel stupid to cut him loose, when the time with him is generally quite good and the allowance can be banked for a rainy day. And he’s also an excellent favors friend, if I need help with paperwork I can’t read or talking on the phone to someone who doesn’t speak english. But …. Next week, going to germany with primary SD, and what do I tell safetynetSD is my reason for being out of town?! Eek.
Good morning! NY Gent, ANYONE…what is MBR?? I know it has to do with being married, but what IS “R” for? I always heard of MBL (married but looking), but have NEVER heard of MBR! I have searched all over! My acronym finding skills must be lacking. All I found for MBR:
Master Boot Record
Memory Buffer Register
Microwave Background Radiation
Master Beneficiary Record
Main Battle Rifle
Multi Band Radio
Memory Based Reasoning
HELP. Please & thank you.
Oh, good morning!
Morning Elegant,
Just sitting here sipping my coffee and pondering life. You must be a vampire or night owl like me who never sleeps.
MBR = mutually beneficial relationship
While we are on the subject of TLA, MBA = married but available.
Good morning, Sincere!
Oh, thank goodness!!! Finally. You know I’m slapping my head now. Whew. I really wanted to get the “Sugar Speak Guide” updated.
As far as sleep, I operate on about 4-6 hours of sleep. I try to get more, but once I’m up…I’m up. A bit Vampire-ish, I know. I have embraced my maniacal side. The Donald (as in Trump, not Duck) would call it “controlled neurosis”. He says all Type-As have it.
Guten Morgen Jeder! Welche einen schönen Tag ist es. Hoffen, dass jeder gut ist!
Good morning everyone! What a beautiful day it is! Hope everyone is well!
Anna Molly – Guten nacht, bist du gut. Deutschland bis kalt. I m sechs oder acht wochen bis heisser.
Flo ~ Ja, es ist kalt! Hoffentlich wird die nächsten sechs Wochen durch schnell gehen! Es ist gut, Sie zu sehen!
Has anyone ever had a pot SD get so offended by the lack of a steamy kiss on the lips goodnight that he immediately changed his mind about getting involved? SDs, have you ever been enamored of a pot SB but then, after the conclusion of a great six hour date, disqualify her simply for the offense of a cheek-kiss-good-night and no direct sloppy lip smooching? Monday’s pot SD that I saw apparently felt that way. He bought me a meal, drinks, we talked for hours, even discussed allowance and came to an agreement about a hypothetical arrangement, and it was very late, I got sleepy, and he drove me home. In that scenario, are SBs obligated to give a tongue kiss good night to ’seal the deal?’ lest they lose their chances with him? French kissing is very intimate and I hadjust met him six hours previously and didn’t feel strong instant chemistry, although I did like him. Personally a moot point since I met my zazazoomSD the next day, but i’m interested to hear all your thoughts.
Elegant’s ignoring me.
Pout.
Lily: Great questions! I would love to hear some SD’s take on this very topic as I feel they are going to vary greatly. Our blog daddies seem a bit more gentlemanly than some I have met in person though. Some really do EXPECT that sloppy good night, lingering kiss. I have noticed when they don’t get it on the first date (kiss, I mean), they call you out on it the next time you speak, text or IM. I am often taken aback by this act of immaturity (by 40-50-something year olds). I am constantly reminded that I need to accept the fact that some men are just overgrown boys…most of the time.
Ha ha! Wasn’t ignoring you, Lily Love. I was updating my site and then had to come back to a new screen to type out my paragraph to you!
zoomdaddy just arranged the sweetest thing. I told him that for this month, I’d prefer a macbook air, and shopping for some classic, elegant pants/skirt suits next week in Germany, instead of normal allowance, since my PC just went kaput yesterday, and I hated it anyways, and I need better professional attire. He said that of course I could busy myself in cologne shopping with my good friend and local german tour guide, while he’s working, and he’ll cover everything that she and I want to do. Lunches, mani/pedi/massages next to one another, shopping, whatever. He’s also going to get a macbook air into my hands in the next 20 hours, so I’ll have a full keyboard by this time tomorrow! I can stay in touch with you guys next week from Cologne.
my girlfriend will take both of us out on our last night to the fancy first night of their carnivale! I’m so excited to be with him for four days next week, I’m so excited about the arrangement, and ….so excited to not only get to see, but share some sugar with, a good pal.
On the subject of passionate kisses …
Love it when I get them especially on a first date as that’s a telltale sign there’s strong attraction.
Never expect it though as some women are more shy and reserved. I guess it’s somewhat like “test drives” … I’m very flattered when I receive an offer (but stupidly I rarely indudge on a first meeting).
However, I am distrubed when the kisses are less than passionate when I’m in a relationship. SB#2 is that way … reserved kissing unless she is thankful for a special gift or otherwise basking in the “afterglow”.
Women … I will never understand them.
Good morning all.
Lily — I never expect a deep steamy french kiss after a first date, and I would say that it just doesn’t happen very often. I wouldn’t eliminate a pot SB if it didn’t happen because I don’t expect it.
Flo Rida — great list on SB behavior. One thing I might add — if he is married, don’t ask about the relationship with his wife. If he wants to talk about it, he will bring it up.
Sugar news — I spent all day yesterday with my SB from 2008. She flew in Tuesday evening from a mountain time state. I picked her up at the airport and she spent the day with me down at the coast (except for a meeting I had). I dropped her off at the airport early evening. It looks like we are getting back together but it is a little odd. We are going to get together about once every two months when it is mutually convenient for her to travel with me. Not sure how I feel about it, but I am just going with it right now because I am very attracted to her and we get along well.
NC ~ I hope everything works out for you darlin’
I love kissing and being kissed, but who doesn’t
Is it a fragile male ego thing? They immediately worry that you’re definitely not into them enough, and the possible negative impact down the line in the bedroom, if you don’t want to swap saliva already on a first meeting….? This guy was perhaps thirty years older than me, not handsome, with a big belly, and double chin. Does he really expect instant lust from my side? Seriously? Can’t he imagine that the results of wooing and letting my feelings slowly warm up could be worth it, and deal with the fact that perhaps affection might develop as I get to know his great inner qualities, and, at that point, intimacy, while certainly being potentially mutually enjoyable and no chore/ordeal on my end, will probably never be an explosive, epic, intense exercise in passion -at least for me…? Isn’t that acceptable? Do SDs who have a good thirty years on their SBs, who have to admit to themselves when they look in the mirror that women are probably finding them enticing for other reasons than their appearance, i.e. Charm, kindness, wit, decisiveness, stabblity, generosity, etc…. really want to find a pretty young woman who lusts for them physically on the first date!? They just want that illusion above all else, even sincerity? Why not then just hire an actress- an expensive, beautiful call girl? Again, a fragile male ego? They can’t shrug off their less than gorgeous appearance and just vow to who over any lady with their personality? Or another option is to date SBs closer to their own age? Then it won’t be her first time in a romantic setting with someone in his age group, and naturally a mental process to imagine him in a romantic light? Twelve years older was the max age diff I’d ever dabbled in before the Sugarbowl. A month ago I got interested in a SD 20 years older than me but that was hard, at first, to get my mind around a total generational gap. Now thirty years older, and on 1st meeting, he wants me to pounce him for a hot good night makeout ?
I thought that some good MBRs were steamy, with strong physical lust, and some weren’t, but really genuine and lovely nonetheless, without it being considered lesser than one where hormones are running amok? Especially when the guy just ain’t much to look at? I don’t mean hideous or in any way gross, but…. just decidedly not attractive, and the kind of guy that needs to… ‘grow on’ a beautiful girl…? He could end up being someone that a beautiful woman comes to very much genuinely enjoy and look forward to her (even intimate) time with, but because of reasons other than his natural handsomeness or physique. Why should that bother a much older, unattractive gentleman? Who is seeking to be a sugar daddy, online, to a much younger woman? Does his ego really have such a problem with the concept of a MBR to start with? Has he forgotten how many decades it’s been since he’s received unsolicited romantic attention from a pretty girl, or since one has responded to his initiative, IRL? Hence the concept of the site, to deliver these desired results by sweetening the pot with sugar in order to open up the minds of younger, attractive women who aren’t being as receptive as to men like I described via non-sugar channels? Don’t they have to live with the sugar being the price of entry….? -because, well, the world just doesn’t owe you every single thing you want, the way you want it. Especially if it involves the behavior of other people.
Lily~ Some SBs do not need “sugar” to be attracted to their “not handsome, with a big belly, and double chin” like you stated. Beauty or “handsome-ness” is truly in the eye of the beholder.
Lily~ Some SBs do not need “sugar” to be attracted to their “not handsome, with a big belly, and double chin SD” like you stated. Beauty or “handsome-ness” is truly in the eye of the beholder.
What I mean is :
Some SDs might find you hot as hell while some find you just average. The same way you find SDs with pot bellies and double chins average, other SBs find them handsome. Also remember that many SBs use the excuse that they need “sugar” in order to be attracted to a SD they do not consider handsome but they end up asking for more and more sugar and never ever “warm up” to the guy. ( NYGent could explain it better)
When you meet a SD, you KNOW if you are attracted to him or not, and if you are not why string him along and make him hope that maybe just maybe you might get intimate with him if he gives enough “sugar”?? I, personally, find it quite unfair.
But it’s just me….
Good morning all….days spent away from the blog with much tax crunching in play, however, had to put my 2 cents in about the kissing comments before I go back to read all the other postings.
Its allllllllllllll in the kiss !!! The soft gentle, sensual kiss, the erotic deep passionate kiss..the desire, the caring, the lusting, and that…no no,don’t go there……unspoken words speak loudly in a kiss. Too many underestimate the power and meaning of a kiss.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day.!!!
Morning Yaz…i am in total agreement with you….There must be a physical attraction to me…i can’t wont or never would fake an attraction purely for sugar.
NYGent~ I apologize if I cited you as an example but your ex-SB was just the perfect example of what I was referring to.
If a SB needs gift or money to be able to warm up to a guy then she is not attracted to him. She is just attracted to the fact that he will spoil her with whatever her heart desires just so that she can share his bed. Period.
Hi NeOhioSB!
I am off to work!
NY Gent – yeah my SD and I are more on a LTR rather than MBR… however nothing is etched in stone. He is clueless to the sugar world and offered to help bc he wanted to not bc he thinks of himself as an SD.
He stated in his profile that he would like something causal and fun (NSA in sugar speak). During our inital communication he said that he is generous which I later found out to mean that he will take you out and treat you like a princess. I was ok with this… then he said he would like to make things easier for me… this is about a month into seeing him…
Overall I dont really view him as an SD but rather as someone I really enjoy my time with. I am hoping that this extends into an LTR commited relationship, although we havent spoken about this. So far we have dates lined up through March 11th which will be our first get away.
P.S. Last nights salsa was AWESOME
Hi NYC SB — I think I am in the same position with my “SB” but I don’t think either one of us want it to turn into a committed relationship (for obvious reasons for me). I am providing modest support and we genuinely like each other — I could see this going on for a long time – which is something that I never envisioned happening when I dipped my toe into the sugar world. Just taking it as it comes right now and I am going to enjoy our escapes together. We are going skiing at the end of March.
Glad salsa was awesome — I need to learn some dance steps!
To respond to the “two strikes” scenario… I wouldn’t have given her a third chance either! I am usually very understanding if someone cancels on me once, but fool me twice, shame on me.
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
I have had a number of messages (before I revamped my profile) offering me nice financial support, but I suspected it was only for sex. I always said no, because that is NOT the kind of girl I am… but I am also still poor. Still, it is a decision I will always stick by.
If you give could 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
Be a straight shooter and respectful, and we will at least make it to date #2
How are things going in your sugarlife?
Meh… only had 1 date a couple weeks ago, that ended a little wierd, yet he still says he wants to see me again. Have a lunch date with another pot SD in a few hours, so we shall see. Le sigh.
Speaking of that… I still have no idea what to wear cuz its SO cold, but I still want to look hot.
Good morning Yaz, NESB, Lily and AM.
Lily, stop overanalyzing the situation and have fun. Attraction is a hard thing to fake so if you’re not attracted to a pot SD, don’t force it. Sounds like you have a couple of solid pots anyways.
You’ll have to get used to the generational gap. Most SD are going to be significantly older than you. If you’re not attracted to older men then that will be a significant problem. If you get into a relationship with someone you aren’t attracted to, it will show and will be likely short lived.
Not all of us men in our 40-50’s are overweight and look like your grandpa. I’m in better shape now than I was in my early 30’s and most SB’s are shocked when I tell them my age. Good asian genes I guess … maybe I can be Elegant’s SD when she’s in her 40’s
Wrt kissing, if I’m not attracted a SB she will get a goodbye hug and not a kiss. There will not be a second date.
Btw, using carriage returns to format paragraphs or using lines to separate your post will make them easier to read.
NC Gent – I will show you some moves when you get back to NYC… Glad to hear the “re-connection” worked…
Lily – To be honest… I almost always skip your posts… they are a HUGE block of text and I have ADD… PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE cut down or do paragraphs
Hi SincereSD — ditto on what you said. If you aren’t attracted to your SD it is going to be a short-lived and not-so-pleasant experience IMHO.
I need to get back to NYC — have a couple of meetings that I need to do so I will take you up on that offer!
Wow did Yaz completely read my posts wrong. Didn’t say at any point that sugar would create attraction. I said personality, over maybe more than just one meal, could. If a guy’s amazing on the inside, a great MBR could happen with that 30+ years younger, beautiful woman, even if he’s very overweight, no redeeming cute smile or great eyes, with sort of bad skin. I felt warmed up to this guy within minutes, and genuinely liked him after a few hours. After a few dates I could have perhaps seen completely past his age and exterior, and attraction could have had a chance to grow and flourish, but he wanted me to have a deep french kiss on day 1, and I’d argue that I don’t deserve that time crunch. if he values a genuine romantic MBrelationship -as opposed to feigned/professional encounter- with someone my age/appearance, and appreciates things to stay totally honest and sincere from my end, asking me out on a second date would be reasonable, even if he felt unsure. We had a nice time, after all. I am just objecting to his imposed schedule of when the passionate, long kisses should be expected. It really isn’t a ‘beauty is in the eye’ sort of thing. ‘Lust at first sight across a crowded room,’ in this case was kind of a ludicrous notion ..and a fantasy that I’m suprised he held to the extent of writing me off for no-tongue-after-dinner. I’m really horrified that I left anyone with the impression that the moment he would have provided any sugar, I would have felt instantly warmed up to him, and been willing to do whatever. The part about no arrangement being in place was NOT the missing ingredient that my libido was waiting for in order to kick into high gear. I was only thinking about, and discussing here about, *inner* qualities that could have made him more attractive in my eyes, over time. FOR A MBR. The part about the sugar that I was referring to, is that there are SDs that are in fact men I just wouldn’t consider traditionally dating, such as married men.
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
The toughest choice in sugar dating comes at the beginning when, after meeting someone once, I have to make a quick decision about whether I like the person enough for an arrangement or not (to put it bluntly, if I like her enough to pay to be with her). I sometimes wish I could have some time and a few dates to decide, but the majority of SBs want ca$h ASAP and think the SD is wasting their time if he is not handing them wads of benjamin franklins right off the bat. So I end up making quick decisions all the time and these decisions, whether to drop someone or to keep them, are not always easy (or correct, for that matter). The second hard decision comes when things are so-so and I have to decide whether to let things go to the next month and hence pay another allowance or to end things.
If you give could 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
Keep me happy so it can last.
How are things going in your sugarlife?
Awesome! I met my new SB again yesterday and the chemistry is really great and I am even more excited about this than before. It’s nice not to have doubts after three dates and to miss her and to look forward to the next time we meet. We were planning on meeting again early next week, but I know that she needs an apartment ASAP. Since, as things stand, the apartment will have to be in my name, I just texted her that, if she wants, I can try to catch her after work to get the paperwork rolling on that. Renting her a place is a significant financial commitment on my part for one year, but I actually see this one working out. She offered for me to deduct her rent from her monthly allowance, which I guess is fair but not entirely necessary if things stay amazing.
Lily – all men think with their little brain some of the time. SD is 9-10 years older than me (depending upon b-day timing) and in shape so I never had that problem – I guess men think, if women need to warm up on physicality then it’s unfair i need to deliver in fin support immediately..
Yaz – some of my friends have come across the ‘give me financial support and treat me like as princess and maybe i’ll warm up to you’ line. once bitten twice shy though.
NC Gent – yes good one – SD is divorced so didn’t enter my head.
Good Morning everyone!
NC Gent and SincereSD:
Good luck with your SBs!
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Yaz:
I totally agree that if a SB needs money before she warms up to the SD, then the attraction isn’t “real”. And if a “SB” is willing to sleep with someone despite not being attracted to him, but b/c he’s “spoiling” her….then the “SB” is actually a “escort”.
Thank you TX SB. I hope all is well with you
I would feel really icky if my SB wasn’t attracted to me, but that is one of the reasons I go for SBs that are within 15 years of my age — to improve my odds of that happening.
Feeling pretty bummed that so many seemed to interpret that I’m willing to fake attraction for sugar. I’ve never done that. I began looking for my first SD six weeks ago. A month ago, I spent two days in a row and indeed slept with a pot SD, who was twenty years older, whom I was completely attracted to, and there was no sugar whatsoever. Just me fantasizing about a traditional ltr with him and letting him sweep me off my feet with promises he never kept. Now he ignores me and won’t return my personal items that he promised to give me at our next visit together. Just being ignored.
I was pretty smitten and would have dated him traditionally, and happily so. I have met many others that I felt no spark for, and I never considered forcing it for the right price. Now I have found and begun arrangements with two married SDs, one is six years older who I am quite physically and mentally attracted to, and one is twelve years older whom I am very very attracted to. Haven’t slept with either yet. But want to. 
so how am I now the poster child for SBs who are strictly selling their affections without feeling genuine chemistry??
I HATE TYPING ON THIS TINY PHONE.
Lily – I was the poster child for that… but the blog set me straight
Lily – I have a whole new respect for your abilities since you’re typing all of your texts on a tiny phone!!! WOW. I don’t have that kind of patience!
And don’t worry about what anyone else thinks. Personally, I think there are many levels of attraction and just because you’re less attracted to one than another (though there is still attraction) isn’t a bad thing at all. You be happy and screw what anyone else thinks!
Lily – don’t take it personally (she says after she herself took it personally and started an all out war – but that’s history)
NYCSB – do you mean typing on small phone or faking attraction? Joking
IRLSD – I still think you are a trader or some description – no way SB gossip is acceptable work gossip in modern day PC era.
What about the other side, OF WHICH I HAVE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED- The SD who talks big, makes lots of promises, and takes advantage of her physical attraction, seduces her into bed and verbally confirms that this is consumating an exclusive arrangement with x benefits, but claiming to also have such strong budding feelings that he swears that the sky is the limit and that he could see the relationship turning into somethig lasting and traditional, but he then turns out to be a huge fraud and liar, just out for some action and ditches her after without offering so much as her taxi money home or springing for postage for her forgotten dress coat in his coat closet? Oh, and he’s got a 9 figure net worth, by the way.
My question is, what does that make him? What can we call him for that type of behavior?
PREDATOR? Liar? psychopath? Cruel?
We have jumped to such labeling of women, even from the mistaken interpretation of one of my thoughts on attraction during the course of sugar dating, and the expected timetable. I just want things to be even on both sides.
Hiya Flo – I hope Elegant is treating you nice… if she isnt go for her shoes… and send them to ME hehehehe
Hi Lily — I think the word we use for that is a$$hole among the other names that you have stated.
I have always been attracted to older men. When I was 18 I never really had much interest in men who were close to my age because I found them to be immature and complete a$$e$. I prefer men who are at least 10yrs older than me and I think it has something to do with the fact that older men are more stable and secure in who they are and where they are in life. They are good mentors and even better lovers. There is nothing sexier than a man who is confident in who he is and what he is doing
First things I did when I turned 18: Get a tattoo and find an older man to date….
Just for the record, Lily. I wasn’t singling you out with my comment regarding attraction – they are just my feelings and preferences.
Lily: You presented some questions and made some absolute statements that people are just responding to. I don’t think anyone is making you a “poster child” for anything. You offered a topic up for argument and people are just presenting their cases to you. That’s all.
SincereSD: Funny. Dido sings a song called, “See you when you’re 40″. I don’t think it has a positive spin though. Anyway, shouldn’t have told me you have Asian genes. I currently have a HUGE crush on American born Korean actor, Daniel Henney. Tell me you’re a nerd too (not just that you date the coke snorting ones…ha ha, couldn’t resist) and it’s over.
IRLSD: You feel rushed to decide on a first date? Therein lies what could possibly be the kink in your armor and why you have had so many unsuccessful SBs?
As far as kissing. Aaaahhh, love, love, love, love to kiss. A long, passionate kiss is the best! That kiss that pierces you and resonates through every fiber of your being. That spark that lights up the entire night.
Rarely happens on first dates. Oh, but when it does…YOWZA!
Attraction and some level of chemistry surely is better. I can’t imagine how two people can get along without that – would be boring non?! Meeting of the minds is so erotic – but i could be aiming too high! hahaa
New to SD but think it might be the reason why i feel so optimistic about 2010.
Trying to dodge fakes and flakes along the way…it’s tough but someone’s gotta do it!
Any tips to pass on for a Sugar dating virgin?
Thanks in advance
x
darn it, forgot the <
I still have fever, sick in bed with the flu, and only thing I felt like doing was sharing my sugar excitement for my PERFECT, amazing zazazoomSD with you guys since I can’t tell anyone else. I was going to break it off with that pot from monday anyways, but thought his reason for dumping me first was food for thought. Oh well. Sorry I sent out such an escort-y vibe to you all. I was really not thinking in terms of feeling more attracted if he would only simply pay me. Wanted to maybe give it time and let his personality win me over, potentially for an arrangement with enough mutual chemistry to make it work nicely. Just pointed out that it would still probably never be an epic level physical/hormonal lust. like with my new zazazoomSF.
NC Gent:
Things could always be better..lol..but for now I’m not complaining.
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Lily:
I call them “men”..lol. SDs are no different than guys we meet IRL. I’m sure girls who’re teenagers all the way upto women in their 50’s can share stories about being cheated on by a BF/fiance, women of all ages can relate to meeting some guy at a club/bar and falling for his “sweet words” only to find out she was a 1-night stand etc. Whether its a “SD” or some random guy you meet at a bar, men of all ages are known to make “promises” in order to sleep with a woman. However, if women continue to fall for their “promises” and allow our emotions to lead us, then these men will just continue doing it b/c their lies gets them what they want.
O.K. here is a question that I know has been asked, but I’m too lazy to go back and look.
When you find “the one” you want to have a relangemanship with, do you delete your profile and post a new one if it ends or do you just hide it?
NYC SB: Do NOT encourage Flo. PLEASE. She has been the toughest of my captives to seize and detain. Geez. Hopping over the counter at Hertz has made her gazelle legs even stronger.
Anna Molly: I have always, always, always, only been attracted to older men. My dad was in his 50’s when I was born and my mom only 20 so age gaps have never been anything odd to me. Besides, men my age are usually just not able to intellectually stimulate me at all.
lunareyes: Stick with the blog and read past postings. You will learn a great deal! Wish I knew about it when I first ventured into the Sugar World.
Hi Everyone!!
AM – I have only hidden mine – although since I have it done that, I honestly haven’t logged in once…I kept it for blog purposes – however I have not had much time to be on the blog either…I am also not IN an arrangement so I may be the wrong person to comment lol..
Hey Taz!! Good to see you
Lunareyes:
Hi and welcome! As ElegantSugar already wrote, you’ll learn a great deal from the blog! And please feel to ask any questions that you may have…
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Anna:
During my last arrangement, I had my profile hidden and put a disclaimer on there stating that I had a SD already (for the pots who already had access to my profile). IF/when I find another SD, I will most likely do the same thing.
Yeah, I know. I just think a 50 year old raising a 16 year old daughter, on his own, AND with a 20 year old son, needs to grow up and start respecting women (how would he like it if some guy lied to/fooled his daughter like that, and used *her* just like a kleenex?) and behave like a role model for his son.
Thanks – miss everyone so much!
Lily – I don’t think anyone was attacking you at all. The written word can be conveyed in many ways. Comments by everyone stir emotions and everyone shares…but they are speaking on THEIR experiences and knowledge – not yours. I know some of the SD’s on the blog have gone through their trials and tribulations (as SB’s have!) and of course there are sensitivities that come up…we are all fam sugar
It’s more of a personal prefrence as to whether you hide or delete I suppose.
To the SD/SB’s on the blog who are in arrangements: Do you hide or delete?
I’m curious
Thanks TXSB
How have you been sweetie?
AM – I do also think it is the level of ‘relationship/arrangement’ you have. If it is completely no strings I think that hiding it is honorable. Conversely, if there is the opportunity for ‘more’ (on both sides of course) and you are keenly interested – why would you want to keep it?
I typically delete my profile Anna, but hiding it and putting something in there that you aren’t looking is good. Once you delete an account, you can’t create a new account using that same email address.
Am I the only one that is addicted to browsing profiles when I am bored? I miss that after I delete my profile
With my last two, I just completely forgot I had an account with SA and didn’t know about the blog so my profile just sat there and I never logged in.
When my first SD and I decided to mutually end things, he stayed my SD and helped me with a new profile and with my next Sugar selection. We still spent a lot of time together and he still offered financial support (a lower amount he offered even though he didn’t even have to do that). After I went into my second relangemenship, same thing, just never logged in and essentially forgot about it. In fact, after I ended the second one, I wasn’t sure if I was going to look for another SD and spent probably 3 weeks reflecting on whether or not I just wanted to date IRL. Ran into an ex-boyfriend and was immediately reminded why the Sugar route was a much nicer one for the time being.
Good morning AM ~~ I deleted my profile completely. No need or interest to look elsewhere.
Hi Taz, sorry I thought you had my email addy. I just sent you mine. I would love to answer your question, just email me! OC
Anna:
I’m good….nothing too exciting going on but not much to complain about either… 
Hi!
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NC Gent:
No, I’m also addicted to browsing profiles.
Hi Everyone, I’m at the library, so I don’t have much time. I’m trying to catch up (not an easy task! You all been busy!) and was reading about being a gift daddy. I would so appreciate anything my SD would get me. I know what my X went through trying to buy the “perfect” gift… for his MOTHER!! never me!! (sorry, sore subject) so I know how torturous shopping can be for some guys.
Yesterday while shopping with Baby Girl, there was a young man kinda following us. She was looking for a new purse, so we looked at Guess, Coach, Juicy C, a few other big name stores at the outlets. I just KNOW he was a SD shopping for his SB!! I so wanted to go hug him and say “Well done!” It was so cute watching him sweat over which one to buy!
Did I miss something? NEOhio and AM are truely in an arrangement? I must have been sleep reading that night… why am I alway the last to konw these things? sigh… romance… <3
OK, I need a cheat sheet to keep this all straight! Gotta start taking notes or something!
Hey ESB — when we were at lunch yesterday, we saw another ’sugar couple’ – he was in early 60s (with wedding ring) and she was late 30s (no ring) and they were very chummy – much too chummy to be married lol it was cute!
Ok i have a question for everyone, I have a pot with a too good to be true offer (allowance), we both decided that after we meet,we’ll decide then if we want an arrangement or not, I think its a good idea, but is that too soon? and when it does start, how do you decide when you get your allowance? is it his decision? or is it mutual?
SanDiego SB — if it sounds to be good to be true, you are smart to be cautious. Get at least half your first allowance before you are intimate, but don’t be intimate until you are comfortable – just like if you were dating.
Hey Lily I totally see where you’re coming from. It’s okay not to make out with a stranger, really
Finding someone you just can’t keep your hands off of is probably the exception. But while it might seem like he was out of line to be upset by the lack of kiss, don’t forget that it might have more to do with negative vibes that you may have been giving off and not actually be about the kiss… Like maybe he could tell that you just didn’t feel any chemistry or interest on your end. And while chemistry is a lot more than just wanting to make out with someone, he might have subconsciously misdirected the negative energy he was feeling and internalized it as being caused from the lack of a kiss, not realizing that it was really more about the lack of a connection. Or maybe he is just an insensitive horndog that wants to get his moneys worth.. who knows. I am hoping that this makes sense…
I think in a sugar relationship it’s important for the baby to have a sincere desire to please her daddy, for the sake of his pleasure, not because you want him to do more for you…but being sexual soulmates is certainly not required for this, just some admiration and respect will do
Admiration is so underrated these days imo. If you need to hold off on consummating an arrangement for a few dates then so be it, because if he is not someone who you genuinely want to get to know better then it will just never work anyways.
If an SB has hangups about being intimate with a pot, I think it is best to decline sugar until you are ready. If he insists on sweetening you up, maybe just hold it in escrow if it’s cash money (minus legitimate expenses that have been incurred directly from dates together, parking childcare etc), more for your own peace of mind than his in case the relationship just isn’t going to work for you. This way you can walk away if you need to without worrying about leaving a big mess.
Some men might insist on providing aid even sans intimacy just because they value the companionship and helping you makes them feel good, while others might do it so that you feel obligated to them (you cannot truly distinguish between these two until you offer to return the money, as the man himself might not honestly know which category he fits into). The latter has the possibility of turning psycho if he feels used, and you will be thankful to be able to return the money. When in doubt, the Golden Rule is generally a good one to live by.
And yes, I often talk too much IRL too /sigh
I have returned an allowance after the arrangement turned strange. However he returned it to me in a cash form so I would not continue the $ugar drop ping pong play of the allowance.
Either delete your profile if you want to limit the temptation or keep perusing the sugar fields.
Lots of fine questions today!
NC Gent an addiction is an addiction. You will always find the grass to be greener when you check out the other lawns. I can tell you aren’t 100% vested in your old/new SB. I know you pretty well by now
I choose not to delete but then again I am a Sugar Addict example.
SanDiego SB, email me and we can check the pot out. I can let you know if he is in the database of truth stretchers..
I am definitely not 100% vested in my current SB, but I really am not looking for another SB (aka greener grass) at this point. I do miss browsing the profiles though.
I know what you mean NC Gent and OC….about developing an addiction to reading the profiles. This time around, because of the blog and my deeper search, I don’t know if I would delete or not after going into an arrangement. It has become a part of my daily life for the past month a half now. The same way I am addicted to the WSJ and miss it if I’m staying in a hotel that only offers USA Today, I would probably miss browsing the SA profiles.
NC Gent – I am not vested in either SD (NYSE bc of his track record, NYC SD because its far too new)… while I am not looking (I swear I am really not looking) my SA account is still up and running… I like looking at the profiles of fellow SBs rather than SDs, I need to know what my competition is like.
I am clearly addicted to the blog and all things sugary but being in this game long enough… i know that the grass may appear to be green on the other side but upon closer inspection it turns out its fake grass
(Editors note: If NYC SD said “Lets be exclusive” then I would delete my account and ditch NYSE)
SFSweetheart: Just wanted to let you know I loved reading what you wrote. Although lengthy (which my posts have been at times), you made some wonderful points and were very articulate in doing so. You expressed some of my exact sentiments.
I am definitely 100% vested in my SD…and as one blogger gfriend knows he spoils me tremendously, with gifts, allowance, etc….that i really have no interest in even viewing other profiles. As much as I had enjoyed viewing other SDs with my last SD, this time is much different. He as well had deleted his profile. To each is own i assume. IF i wasn’t fully happy or satisifed with an SD, yes, I would continue to browse, etc….but I found a needle in a haystack very sugar arrangement..more than what I could have even imagined….IF the time would ever come to recreate a profile and begin a search again, I would do so with another email, simple as that.
I love that someone admitted on the blog to having more than one SD… Nice not to be the only black sheep (well at least in that respect)
The grass being greener has nothing to do with what side of the fence you are on. The grass is always greener where it is watered!!!
AMEN Elegant!!! Very well stated.
I am actually considering having two SBs given that I will only see my SB about 6 times a year for extended visits… not sure I can juggle two, and I can see problems with that — but I guess you only live once! I need to find another one that is up for 6 times a year — good luck on that huh?
Elegant — I think if you are staying in a Marriott, you can have your WSJ subscription delivered there for when you are out of town. I did it a few times a while ago, but it was easier just to buy one somewhere….
The problem with still being friends or making friends with SD’s that you choose not to have an arrangement with is that they STILL want to tempt you!
Even if they know well and good you are seeing someone. Sugar is not for the faint of heart! I just got a lovely gift (vailed under the pretense of Valentines Day) of a Gucci purse from a past Sugar. Daaamnnnn now I will have to return it. Crap, why does part of me love the attention.
Thanks, CA Dreamin. Being raised by a man who was a deep thinker and social philosopher, I have been relentless in my quest of always seeing things a bit differently. Sometimes my biggest assets though become my biggest downfall.
NEOhio SB I am so happy to hear that. You sound very happy.
I on the other hand am NOT. I have everything you mentioned. But I think it is MY issue. I am just not a LTR girl right now as hard as I have tried. Maybe it is a just a bump in my road to happiness. I need to seek Sugar Therapy…
I had a bit of a break, and decided to stop in and say hi.
AM–In regards to your question, I went ahead and hid my profile.
NC Gent: thanks for the heads up on the WSJ! I am addicted.
OC: Oooh, hard to say no to Gucci!
I am in a situation where I am entertaining the idea of having two SDs.
I am addicted to the WSJ — might have an addictive personality I guess but it does help me a lot for my work. Regarding two SDs, go for it Elegant — if I have two SBs, we can swap horror stories!
It is not the shiny object that I desire it is the adoration and playfulness that draws me in like a moth to a flame.
I am not your typical sugar baby. I don’t fawn all over them and kiss their $ss. Nor am I mean or hurtful at ALL!!!
I am a normal girl who is REAL and has a real life. I say NO all the time.
It is a compliment to me when the SD’s tell me how refreshing it is not to have the girl feel they need to say YES and be a follower.
OC ~~ Thank you. But, I can absolutely relate to your dilema, as i have had that in the past with a diff. SD and other pots. THIS one is different. All the sugar, but much much more…and finding that true happiness is what has separated him from the other SD i had. I can’t say it is a LTR…we enjoy one day at a time, without expectations of where this will ever go….the best way.
French Press Coffee + WSJ = perfect start to a morning! Well, unless you are with your Sugar, then there would be a “pre-addition” to the good morning equation. But, I won’t go there today, kids. Trying to keep it G-rated.
How bad could your stories be, NC Gent? With only 12 visits a year??? Ha ha!
NC Gent – I’m also a WSJ addict. Actually was a beta tester for their online service in ‘94 and have been with them ever since.
How is everyone? I have been missing in action for awhile, but just wanted to check in and see what I have been missing.
Anna Molly and NC Gent – about those profiles and being with someone. I like to keep my profile hidden most of the time no matter what. And certainly with someone I am going to keep it hidden. But as NC said, sometimes one gets bored, thus needs to at least do some window shopping to see what might be out there. Personally I like to keep my options open
I guess time will only tell, ES! I had french press coffee for the first time a few weeks ago — it was spectacular! Maybe we can have coffee and read the WSJ as we swap stories!
I don’t fawn or kiss a$$ either. Isn’t inherent in my nature to be that way. I thought those characteristics were black marks against me in the Sugar World, but have learned, SDs appreciate you just being yourself and being REAL.
SG2!! How are you darlin’? Long time no see! Where have you been hiding sugar?
AustinSD: For some reason I don’t get as much of a thrill reading the online version. I like the feel and smell of the actual newspaper. Even the sound of the paper as you fold it over. I’m weird like that. I grew up on a farm with two television channels(when we could get the wire hanger and aluminum foil just right, we had three) so reading newspapers and the Reader’s Digest were forms of entertainment I will always hold onto.
NC Gent: Would love to! Maybe even in OBX?
Anna Molly – some work related issues have kept me tied up for the last three weeks. I finally decided today just to take a break from it for the day and not worry about something I can’t control.
Hi SG2 — we have missed you because I hate being the only one here that is FOS!
OC – like yourself I like the attention… and sure you can get attention when you regular date but there is something so so sugary sweet about how some pots express their interest.
I am notorious for the juggling act… I like having 2 SDs… its good to diversify sugars… because as Miss OC said: Sugar can fizzle out
SG2 ~ It’s good to see you back! Are you going to stick around for a while?
FOS means….?
Each SD that has been a part of my life would tell you that they were super attracted to the fact I was REAL, soft spoken, driven and organized. Organized NOT demanding! Organized as in on time, girly and soft but the process was invisable (never spoke of how or how much time it takes to pull that off), can wear a baseball hat and Jack Purcell’s or a ball gown. What it boils down to is we are who we are. Don’t try to change to be who they want you to be.
Kudo’s on the multiple SD theory. Sorry but I think it does work without being sleezy
OBX it is — looking over the ocean would making even more special. Not sure one can get french press coffee on OBX though.
Elegant – of course you dont fawn or kiss a$$ – it is not in your genes as an ex model :p
Also, the feel and smell of a book is a reason why I dislike the kindle… even though SD gave me one… i just dont like using it
Oh and my Golfing ability seems to work small wonders (go figure) …. I would advise all to take some lessons
oops sorry — a few months ago — SG2 and I were accused of being “full of shiza” (FOS) by an SB blogger who was a one-post wonder. We still joke about it!
OC – of course it works without being sleezy… I am not seing either of them solely for the allowance… I am attracted to both… so then why cant I have both? We do it while we date all the time … well at least I do
Elegant Sugar – FOS = full of sh*t
Darn it. Never should have made that (ex model) admission. Please don’t hold that against me. I didn’t know any better then….and it paid the bills.
Never want a Kindle, but past SDs and pots even have offered knowing how much I read.
NC – You want French press coffee in OBX? DONE. (I have a portable one!) Just need a stove or boyscout flintrock fire starting skills will work as well.
NYCSB – I suggest you approach Shaw as they sell fake grass – which is really felt, with shards of non-uniform plastic over it, interspersed with either sand or ground up rubber pellets (from old tire cord). I used to read some (not many) profiles but now I never read profiles.
Now you (SG2 and NC Gent) two are the least FOS SD’s I know
I guess they are all portable (except for the newer electric ones). I just meant it is travel size. Makes 2 small cups. Perfect!
OK — I will bring the high end coffee — do you like vanilla syrup is yours?
Anna Molly – I will try to make more time for checking in. I really need to take a couple of hours and figure out the personalities of the new players on this blog.
“One Post Wonder” generated a full HA HA from me! Hilarious!
More like “FOS and afraid to use their real name” …
At the restaurant where I first had french press coffee, they brought out individual units and pressed it for you right there. It was a lot like espresso but not nearly as strong. I still like my cappacinos though!
NYCSB – no we just look mean and steal each other’s boyfriends
Elegant – four elements of a fire are spark (flint, cigarette lighter, matches, friction, sun magnifying glass), dry tinder, kindling and wood or other flammable material. If you’ve never started a fire dry tinder is the most difficult – bark from river birches is excellent, lip moisturerizer, tampons are all excellent tinder. Needless to say I was bored as a teenager!
Did you just say vanilla syrup??? NO WAY. You are speaking my language, NC! Sometimes will go with sugar free caramel, but a shot of vanilla always. And half a Splenda.
Ok, bloggers, don’t get the wrong idea. NC Gent and I are just going to meet sometime in between his 12 annual Sugar dates and in between my quest for the meaning of life while juggling two SDs to discuss Sugar horror stories over French press coffee somewhere in the Outerbanks of NC. Totally innocent!
Flo….and I thought I was Resources Unlimited, Inc. Holy cow! You are like a walking “how to for dummies” on everything! Love it!
NYC SB, thanks sugar. I knew you would come out of the fold to hold credit to my 2 SD Credo…
I really need to be strong! Did I mention the Gucci purse came with a note that said fly to Italy with me and we will visit the birth place of your 1st love…
Dang he really knows my love of all that is Gucci…
SG2: I believe I fall into the category of new personality here, which can be strong sometimes, but I assure you I mean no harm. Now my Kung Fu grip on the other hand, is a-whole-nother story. Take heed.
SG2 ~ We have quite a few new bloggers all of which are wonderful!
How is the sugar world treating you? Sorry, just being my normal, nosey self
Exactly OC SB — I don’t mind if someone calls me out for being FOS, but at least have the kahoonas to use your usual blog name and not hide behind a fake one. I am pretty sure I know who it was though
Elegant — I actually go for two packets of Splenda in mine – maybe I am a sugar substitute kind of guy! I have met several of the blog SBs in a completely platonic manner
I use two packets if it is a grande. However, I often ask for a real mug if I am “enjoying my hot beverage” inside. Love drinking out of a nice, heavy mug. The same reason I like a real newspaper, I guess.
Speaking of..who’s bringing the WSJ??
OC – the mother ship is calling you
NC Gent – I think you are fresh out of school or FOOS (in a good way) – joking.
Elegant – I just liked setting fire to things, SD is really goofy and so loves fooling around as well. Maybe i’m a tiny bit grown up now (as an old hag).
Elegant ~ Make sure you get a conformation from NC on that meeting of yours. He was supposed to take me shopping at VS back in Dec. and I’m still waiting!!
NC ~ Sorry, but I had to give you a hard time. I just couldn’t resist..LOL
FOOS — Ok I will have to use that one too now Flo!
I will bring the two copies of WSJ or shall we share?
NC Gent, all water under the sugar bridge
AustinSD glad to hear your lunch went well at Chez Nous! Aren’t you meeting her again tonight? Now that you are thinking LTR with her and she with you what are your thoughts on pampering her? Will you forgo the typical allowance and pursue dating her.
Sorry, just wanting to know your strategy.
Anna Molly – not much going on because I don’t have the time. I did meet someone last month that used to be on this site over a year ago. She had decided the site was not for her, but we had kept in touch and finally decided to meet.
Anna is right — I am completely unreliable and typically FOS, but it is most likely a result of being FOOS. Come to the OBX Anna but not sure if they have a VS there – enough acronyms yet?
Now, I do have one positive thing to say about ex-models and people who work in the fashion industry as a whole. I DO enjoy the straight-forwardness and no nonsense types of approaches you gain from that industry. Whether it is in your genetic make-up to be that way or not, it rubs off on you and actually helps you in other areas of life. If you choose to use your powers for good.
That’s probably why I like you, Flo. (*that’s about as mushy I will get with you so don’t go turning all Anna Wintour on me*)
SG2 ~ Hopefully you’ll get to take a break pretty soon. Work for me has just started to pick up. I have two companies and three personal accounts that I have to do taxes for and I am about to go crazy. I hate tax time….UGH!
NC ~ Don’t worry about it darlin’. It’s the thought that counts
Tell you what, when you come to the city next time I will buy you a pressed coffee and you don’t even have to take me shopping. How does that sound?
You will have to go about 50 miles outside of OBX into Chesapeake, VA for the nearest VS!
Deal AM
I go to Chesapeake VA for business often. My 2009 SB lives there! Elegant Sugar — you have mail on your blog page 
OC – There isn’t much sexier than a woman swing a golf club, especially with the right attire.
Hello all.
I have not replied in like 9 months on these blogs! Just busy I guess and had a SB so wasnt seeking any advice.
Difficult choices: hmmmm one prior SB wanted to tie me up and make me watch, go to swinger clubs etc…ahhh not sure Im into that sorry. So we called it quits (she was a former porn star)
Piece of advice?/Tip? Be yourself. Dress nice, and act like a lady…I guess thats three tips.
How is sugar life going? Pretty well. Me and M… have been together almost a year!!!! Amazing. We see each other anywhere from 3 times a month to a stretch recently where we didnt see each other for 6 weeks. Recently she followed me to a Conference for a weekend. We went out to a comedy club and had a nice dinner together then back to the hotel. Saturday I had meetings she shopped on my dime. Met her for a nice lunch. Saturday evening we went shopping. Went to VS and followed her around while she picked out cute panties and some other pretty things, bought her a nice bracelet and a new Coach bag. Then on to a nice dinner. Waitress says “oh you are such a nice looking couple” ha ha…maybe because everyone else there was like 70ish for some reason. Again I have the filet and she stuffs her little bod with king crab and we share some bread pudding. Then back to the hotel and some wine and the best intimate times I have had with her. Morning breakfast and say good bye
Gave her 1400 for weekend plus plane tickets, and her own hotel room. Plus about 500 in shopping and then dinners…had much fun as did she. Wish I could do that every weekend. Too bad Im not a manager at BofA so I can get a 2 million dollar bonus!
For all those who are discouraged keep trying. The nice arrangements are out there!
Regards,
NYland
Flo and Elegant – I make fun of the model stereotype… really Im just jealous cuz I stopped growing at 5′6” …
OC – yikes! offers like that make you wish you were single… however… as much as it pains me to say this… you have a wonderful man who is commited to you… and that to me is not worth a trip to italy and a purse, but then again what to I know… i dont even like purses :p
OC sb how do i get your email?
and thank you NC gent
aww NYland – “Wish I could do that every weekend. Too bad Im not a manager at BofA so I can get a 2 million dollar bonus!”
that is sweet… an SD who LIKES to spoil….
NYland ~ That is sooo sweet!! Made me smile like this
Afternoon Sugar’s,
I just had a SD add me to his Favorite, so I contacted him. I asked him what was about my profile that interest him. He wrote back….he likes fishing, (which I love) also he has a Harley, (4 points). The only problem is, he lives in Canada……Quebec! I left it up to him. If he would like to communicate. That’s very far. And I can’t TRAVEL right now!
Hi AustinSD — I prefer a woman with a fishing pole over one swinging a golf club! But to each his own sugar!
Oh, and he also said he like my legs and eyes. How could I ignore that.
Elegant – I would ask you if you knew a certain print model in NY but I forgot you live in FL. The film industry is much more direct in casting calls but both are pretty direct. Keep in mind i’m FOS as well but too old to be FOOS. As you are asian have you heard of FOB (fresh off the boat).
NJLady – How long till you can travel? Can he come to you? Keep the email/phone charm on full blast and a solution will be found.
NC Gent – Most of my fishing has been done from a seated position but I grew up on the great lakes fishing walleye not on a river fishing trout.
My profile won’t tell anyone this but I’m in the most painful stages of divorce right now. I know, it will pass. Anyway, I’ve been thinking about what I would like to do, next, with all this new found freedom. I occurs to me that in my profession, I can work anywhere in the world (wherever I can get internet.) So I’m starting to think about being more transient, (as a way of life.)
As far as things are shaping up it, it looks like I’m going to loose my home, here in the city, and will end up only with the country place in the mountains. I’m trying to think positive about that and realize that it could be a beautiful place to have, as a home base! There is no mortgage and the 117 acres of land includes forest, streams, ponds and riverfront.
From there, it’s more of a dream . . . I picture myself moving with the seasons, renting quiet flats on short monthly terms and getting to know the people. Their customs, dreams, successes, tragedies. And in each place I want to leave something that enables a positive change in those people’s lives. I see my friends regularly joining me. some staying for long times and others only as long as their schedules permit.
Or perhaps I’ll get a large boat to live on and really be a vagabond.
I was wondering whether any SB would be interested in an SD with that kind of lifestyle?
AustinSD- I won’t be able to travel until September, after I graduate. I told him I would like to communicate. So, I supose it’s up to him.
Nomadic – Why not? If you’re bringing your SB to you – what difference does the geography make? The mountain place sounds fabulous. I’m sure you’ll find someone who would enjoy that lifestyle as well.
Storm – I think that an SB will be interested in anything you offer because of your kindness with a twist… I am sorry for your troubles friend :/
Lily–I never said that your comments made you look like an escort. Your post was very long and if I recall correctly you asked several questions in it. My post was a response to your questions but I guess you perceived it as an attack. CA Dreamin SB is right; screw what I ( and the others) think.
Please disregard my comment.
I will keep reading your posts and will just refrain from commenting in the future.
I’m typing from my bberry so there might be lots of typos in this post..
Wow! Omg guys, a potential paid my phone bill!!!! I am so happy right now
Finally some sugar, mmmmmmmmmm
Yaz – I totally wasn’t saying anything about anything you said (not that you took it that way) – just commenting to Lily to let anything that rubs her the wrong way roll off her back.
As a general rule, I like your posts
Afternoon sugars!
As you may, or may not, have noticed I’ve been posting less and less frequently here. I just wanted to drop in today and let you know that I will be taking a hiatus from my sugar search. An unfortunate series of events have been occurring in my personal life that are forcing me to spend my energy and focus elsewhere and I can’t give the sugar search the amount of effort it needs to come to fruition regardless of how much I could really use the allowance in my life right now. Without saying too much, someone very close to me’s life is in danger right now, and frankly and indirectly, mine may be as well. Unfortunately, the alleged situation that is causing this danger to him (and potentially myself) is a complete fallacy.
I hope to still post here from time to time and still plan on attending the CA meet, but I won’t be actively searching for an arrangement at this time. Hopefully this entire situation will pass and I’ll be back to sugar search soon. In the meantime, my friend and I would both sincerely appreciate your prayers.
NC Gent huh? I will have to see if GUCCI makes a fishing pole…
I’ll be thinking about you Cali…I hope everything works out okay…take care of yourself and hope you are back soon! Be safe! Prayers going out for you and your friend.
NYC Sb yes, yes you are right I am a bad girl for enjoying the fantasy. But, I am human. Plus as you can tell from my posts over the past week something is on my mind. It has been a Dark and Nasty Cloud over my world and I think it is getting the best of me. By the way, I have had zero contact with Mr Italy, none zip zero. I also sent back the purse over my lunch hour.
True confessions…
My BF/SD’s old sugar is making herself out to be quite the sticky booger (sorry for the visual, but I had to give her a humorous name or I will think of a less than humorous one to suit the situation).
I found out she has been trying to sweet talk her way back into his life. He at least is honest with me about her antics.
My take on it is I do not want DRAMA. Period.
She will not go away. But I will not make this
a point of discussion with him and he knows
that. I think I said he needs to deal with the
situation and I thanked
him for being honest about her antics.
I hate sticky boogers… LOL
NYC SB: I must confess, I DO love purses. It doesn’t always have to be high end. I have some adorable $25 clutches. Although, I would probably fall on my back (cockroach style) and die if someone ever gave me a Hermes JPG Birkin (specifically in light coffee or grey). Hermes is the one handbag you can actually consider an investment. Hermes bags from the ’60s command current retail prices! That, my friend, is the power of Hermes.
Flo: FOB? Whachoutalkinboutwillis??? Just kidding. I have heard FOB since I was knee high to a grasshopper! But I did travel over by plane. So would that make me a FOP? And I might know the print model you speak of in NYC. You never know. The fashion world is really small as you know. I mean, really small.
NYland: What a wonderful story! Wow. You made all of the SBs in here salivate, I think.
Nomadic: It takes all kinds to make the world. There is definitely a SB out there who would love exactly what you offer.
Cali Lemon: Sorry for your current grief.
As far as golfing, I have a clean golf cart driving record and can mix a nice martini while riding in the passenger seat. As far as fishing, it’s been a while, but I don’t get heebie jeebies hooking the bait. Used to spend hours digging for worms before our weekend camping trips in the Ozarks.
By the way, I just stepped out to run errands and went into my least favorite store, Wal-Mart (aka: HELL) and I swore I heard them page Macaulay Culkin on the intercom. Is Wrestle Mania in town???
Hello ALL! ( to lazy to pick out names and miss someone!:) )
I to grew up on the great lakes, being a BUCKEYE, and lake perch are the best, or bass, or waleye… let’s go fishing and find out! I love to fish, something about being quiet and on a boat. Love it!!
NEWS FLASH!! Room mate just came by to tell me “They just gave the weather forcast on TV” I said “and…?” he said “We are all gonna die!” LMAO We are expecting 10 – 24′ tomorrow. sigh… please melt by Monday. I’m sick of shoveling!!
Cali: Best of luck to you. Prayers are being sent up!
Nomadic Constant: Sounds perfect for me. Love to travel, different city every time… I say start looking!! Pretty sure there is someone for everyone on here…
NYland: Sigh… can I have that weekend, just once? Thanks for giving me hope. Need it today!
ESB ~~ (((hugs))) I knew there was a great quality in you…being a Buckeye ~~~ Just talked to a cpa friend I do some consulting for in Baltimore and heard about the snow forecast….He was saying 18 – 24″ and the stores were a mayhem…people fighting over parking spaces, etc…flocking to the stores to stock up. Supposed to start around noonish, then the worst is Saturday. Think you guys had more snow this winter than we did out here. Be careful and be safe…we are expecting alot less than that over here. Still id rather be at the beach in 90 degree weather.
It is INSANE!! Gotta run to the store to buy milk and bread… Who needs bread and milk, I’m out of Smirnoff’s Ice!! Gotta run to the store for that!! Not expecting as much where I am, and Ocean City is only expecting rain! I’d go there, but would have to drive home! Would never make it. The guy I worked with today said I should sell my Mustang before tomorrow!!!
I agree, 90 on white beach would be so much better!!
Cali-Dreamin well the thing I’m really asking here . . . is everyone only interested in a once a week only kind of thing here or are there SBs also interested in the older version of keeping and being kept type affair. I would want my sb to travel with me and be with me alot more than once a week. Not interested in quashing anyones lifestyle. But I find that I want more than being there once a week for a couple of hours.
NYC SB – thanks gorgeous! I always did think you have good taste. And shhhh . . . I’m trying to be kinda anonymous cause I don’t want my current sb to think that I want to replace her. She’s my first choice and I’ll only look elsewhere if she opts out. Thing is I think she’ll probably decline because she likes her freedom and time alone too much.
ESB – Nylans’s right. I waited 7 months before I mase the leap with one SB. Up till then I just kept looking. I got discouraged alot but eventially got connected with the right one. So hang in there it just takes a little time.
Nomadic – There is someone out there who would be happy with the situation. You never know who she is – but there IS someone out there who would love that.
I agree with CA Dr. I know there is someone out there who would love that, but for me, I couldn’t. Would LOVE to , but have a few kids who I can’t leave right now. I’d be lost with out them. Not ready for the “empty nest”. I’m pathetic. They really are my life.
Elegant & Lily- I’ve gotta chime in on the kissing potSD’s on the first date posts. In the past, when on a regular date, I did not give signals that I was receptive to a first date kiss. I’m more reserved. Most of my boyfriends hugged me and did not try to kiss me on the first date. This may seem totally old-fashioned and odd, but I don’t want a guy to even dream that I might be “easy” and kissing on the first date to me sets the tone for a physical relationship right away to me. I know, I know call me Prudie Prude. I truly like to hit a guy upside the head with my sensuality when that moment occurs. That said, just because of sugar dating, I may have changed my tune. The two potSD’s who have kissed me on the first date totally gave me butterflies. There was no tongue involved but it was niiiiice and sweet and it felt totally natural. I felt that since there is a pretense that I may become their lover, and because the conversation flowed and the attraction was mutual the end of the night kiss was icing on the potentially sugary cake. Bummer for me that neither of these fellas decided to become my SD. One chose another SB and the other potSD wants to become a client and barter services for some marketing. He was a bit hesitant on the allowance and so rather than turn me down flat, this is his way of helping as he is on line seeking whatever his kind of sugar is. He’s damn sexy, nice, and handsome though, so maybe I can poach him as a boyfriend later. Still that was such a nice kiss after our first date. Yay for me and rats for me.
SBnxt: I’m sorry, I had to laugh at that.. the double edged sword. The kiss was niiice, but now you know what you are missing! Wow, that sucks! Sorry sister! I know that hurt. I hope you can poach him later! Good luck!
Hey, ya’ll. Fever broke. Feeling much better. Sorry for verbosity earlier, and drama. I was really just irritated on a hypothetical level that this pot was so impatient and wouldn’t let attraction happen over a longer time horizon and wanted tongue so fast. Totally moot point since I met my zazazoom SD the next day and would have declined mr. Smoochy anyways but, if I hadn’t, I would have felt jipped not to get a second date just because any physical attraction needed more bonding time to reveal itself. Of course I would not have accepted sugar from him during these first getting-to-know-you dates with the future so uncertain.
I did let safetynetguy sugar me before I was sure. Mutual chemistry made it not feel wrong…: not sure though.
Ok, how many of us on the two SDs team?
I have to say that I have never been this excited about dating. It’s not just the potential for someone to feather my nest a little, it is the very compliment that there are men out there who want to pull a gal up and help her achieve her dreams. It’s all just so flattering. I feel a genuine gratitude for men who are SD’s. I am not simply doing this for the aspect of financial gain. My last few relationships bled me dry emotionally and this is an opportunity to be an object of desire, and a happy companion. I do not need to look for red flags or be afraid of making another mistake, I just get to BE and GO and DO.
I hear a Sly and The Family Stone song in my head now
SBnxtdoor: GREAT way of putting it! That is exactly how I feel and have been unable to verbalize; written or otherwise. The desire to help a woman achieve something great and BE something that will help her gain independence (financial and otherwise) on her own is such an attractive quality. On top of being so gentlemanly and having such desire to make a woman smile! SDs rule. I am certain there are men out there IRL who want to offer the same; you are just increasing your chances of finding one this way – by putting yourself in the right place.
Glad you feel better, Lily!
It is such a shame that in our society a sugar baby is regarded as a gold digging whore, when in my opinion, and it certainly applies to the women that I have met here, true sugar babies are desirous of being self-reliant and independent. Using their brains, amiable personality(hopefully) and natural charm, somewhere betwixt here and there is one helluva good time to be had by all.
Can I get an AMEN Sugar Sister!!!!!
You nailed it SBnxtdoor…
Yes, SBnxtdoor – well put
My favorite; was her line of “Helluva GOOD time had by ALL”
I liked the part about sugar babies wanting to be self-reliant and independent – though the entire post is excellent
CA wanting to be self-reliant and independent? WE ARE those things and so much more!!!
find anything out,about the ”too good to be true” OC sb?
Yes, I have one more thing to gather then I will send you the info!
Yes – I realize that’s what I should have written OC! We ARE all exceptional women.
hi back to dip my little fingers in the sugar bowl after a long break. I had a wonderful sugar daddy but he had to end it for “personal” reasons. now I am looking for another friend
thanks a bunch!
You are all so very unique and fabulous. Thanks for sharing your experiences good and bad.
OC: I think Stephan should put that up for an ad or something. Very well said. I do not have a gift for words, but if I did, that is what I’d like to think I would have said. Thank you!!
Went to pick up Baby Girl, and took me all of 5 seconds to catch up! You all are slow tonight. Guess everyone is out eating supper, which is what I did while gone.
Time for bed, though. Office day tomorrow, need to be on my game. The school have already decided on half a day, and the snow won’t start to fall ’til afternoon. We like to be prepared here when it come to snow… we roll up the sidewalks to prevent any damages!
Night all, sugar HUGS!!
Welcome back Jen!! I hope you find what you are looking for!
ElegantSugar says: SincereSD : Funny. Dido sings a song called, “See you when you’re 40″. I don’t think it has a positive spin though. Anyway, shouldn’t have told me you have Asian genes. I currently have a HUGE crush on American born Korean actor, Daniel Henney. Tell me you’re a nerd too (not just that you date the coke snorting ones…ha ha, couldn’t resist ) and it’s over.
Elegant, I guess it’s over then … I’m asian and a nerd
(And I’m not into cokeheads).
So when do we get married? We’ll have the honor of having the first blog marriage and Mr. Wade will pay 5% royalties for using us in his marketing campaigns. :p
Btw that song isn’t flattering. I vaguely remember a song (by the sisley bros?) named “older women make better lovers” or something like that.
Evening ESB, SincereSD, SandiegoSB, jen, OC, sbnextdoor, CAdreamin, Elegant and all others! Happy (almost) Friday!
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share? This could have a million different meanings. For me, it was a tough choice of tweaking my profile for searches (fudging my age) and letting people know the what/why without losing their trust or interest. The good news is it worked out fine. Then again I wasn’t sasquatch posing as a 5′5″ woman.
If you give could 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be? Have a good understanding of what an arrangement really is and what you want it to be.
How are things going in your sugarlife? Things are sugary! SD is quite busy in his work life, so we treasure the moments.
Off to catch up!
Sincere – wasn’t it the Statler Brothers “older women make beautiful lovers”?
NC Gent – I have TaylorMades, a fishing pole and an ice fishing pole (with accessories)! Do I win an all expenses paid fishing/golfing vacation in Aruba? PS – Fine with Deep sea and lake fishing…prefer to eat ocean fish.
Cali SB- Be safe. Hope all turns out well. We will send Flo Rida and Elegant out to spy on you and solve the mystery of the fallacy.
Nomadic- I’m sure there is a lady out there who would enjoy travelling to different cities for short periods of time, then retreat to your mountain home. I have friends who are travelling nurses and they truly enjoy the lifestyle. You may have to cast a wider net though. (No fishing pun intended).
SincereSD – I was born in Asia and so have an Asian passport a British passport but not an American passport. Btw i’m not asian ethnicity but being born in asia does that get me an invite to the wedding.
Elegant – I shouldn’t do this but the print model has initials JM and is Russian and has appeared in Playboy (but I don’t hold that against her) and her last name has 8 letters. She’s a good friend to me BUT there are models who hate her (as there are models who hate me). Do you know her?
good evening midwest!
I love this blog. Imagine a huge “blog meet” with all of us.
It would be a geek gathering complete with Karaoke and pop culture trivia all night long. Flo and I could teach ninjitsu moves and stealthy tactics for learning how to escape unnoticed from really bad, bad dates. Flo could also include her “how to start fires with lip moisturizer and tampons” class. Or, the catwalk. Depending on what drinks are served for the evening.
Sincere – this could be the perfect setting for our SA wedding. But after the fact, I am running off to OBX with NC Gent for coffee and WSJ. You would totally be okay with this of course, as you go riding off into the sunset with your SB listening to the Statler Brother’s famous “Louie Louie”.
A reality show waiting to happen…
Anyone else want to add to this story. Lots of creative minds here and I could go on, but POOPED. (Which isn’t an acronym like FOOS.)
Elegant – When you and NC Gent have finished your pressed coffee (yes, I have a press too), the he will wisk us off To CA to a chartered fishing boat with a full crew…we can eat, drink and be merry while carrying on about the one that go away (fish that is). Then 18 holes at Pebble Beach!
Hi Sweet Sugars!
I hope everyone is doing well:)
MCM – Hi!!!! How have you been??
MMD: ((hugs)) Hi!! I am doing well, but way too busy with work, how sad is that?? How are you?
Flo – I do know of a print model with initials JM, also in Playboy (2006), but she is Polish and has 7 letters in her last name.
Midwest – I love your addition to the story! Ha ha. Oh, I am in rare form and easily humored this evening…sans wine, if you can believe that. Believe it.
Hey Elegant and Flo– remind me to call one of you guys the next time I am stuck while doing a crossword puzzle
Hey folks – welcome to Thursday night in Arizona!
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share? Nope – all the choices were easy to make. Shall I mention the one who emailed me for rent money, even though we had broken it off 2 months before?
If you give could 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be? Be honest, be realistic, and be prepared to meet. (oops that was 3…)
How are things going in your sugarlife? excellent … got a weekend in Vegas this coming weekend with a new SB. I am really looking forward to this!
Hilarious, SBnxtdoor!
Hello to everyone on tonight…to include, but not limited to the Ninja Lurkers.
Have any of you sugars (SBs) invested into something before meeting pots? I was so discouraged by my last bad date, I decided to go on a sugar-hunt today and set up meeting with 3 SDs around the city. I had an “ok” dress to wear but was feeling a need for a confidence boost and ended up buying a $400 gorgeous DvF dress. The sales lady told me a looked like a knockout lol : )
SD1 was a pay per play guy but a high end one at that, so I consider that a half-win. SD2 was an extremely nice guy who confided that he had little to no sugar to give (lose). SD3 was a handsome, cool, well-composed guy with an AMEX black card, the chemistry was apparent, he was fine with my high allowance, we agreed on a second date… I hope it works out! (win?)
NYC 22 – Good luck with number three!
Michael – what hapens in Vegas….. Have fun!
Goodnight sugars!
Elegant – unless one of us can’t count or spell (which is a distint possibility) and one of us is geographically challenged it’s a different lady.
Sbnxtdr – funny haha.
Gemi – haven’t heard from you in a long while – I was in Chesterfield County the other day (I-288) and hope the forecast of 2-20inches of snow doesn’t cause you too many problems.
Ooooh NYC-22 it sounds like you saved the best for last.
In regards to potSD2, since you are in NY I doubt it would be the same guy who confided to one of our blog SB’s that his wife left him with the singlewide and his monkey that rides the dog during rodeo intermissions. Who’s story was that?
I find it interesting that a man would have enough confidence (hutzpah) to ask a beautiful girl, and one quite obviously looking for financial support out on a date to tell her the well is dry. I suppose the same goes for women who post pictures 15 years and 30lbs ago, described themselves as athletic and fit, and want a potSD to look beyond their revealed chubbyness and lust after their personality.
I think ive officially given up,cause apparently im no ones type.
Flo – I am an excillant speller. What do you mean?
Midwest – good night, darlin’!
Sbnxtdoor – I remember the dog riding monkey story! WHO was that?!
NYC 22 – Sounds like winner is behind door #3! If you like DVF, wait until you see what she has coming out for Fall 2010. She is breaking her own rules!
mm nerds are the hottest… especially the tall awkward ones…
Sbnxt – I actually knew it was coming. Throughout our otherwise great 2 hour lunch date, he kept saying things like “not a millionaire”, “business hasn’t been doing well”, “looking for a regular relationship”, “dates cost a lot too”, “don’t want to put a number out there, but see how it goes”. For me it was like “red flag”, red flag”, red flag”. Maybe his well wasn’t completely dry, but it wasn’t worth pursuing.
SanDiego SB: I have seen your profile. You are gorgeous and from what I can tell, intelligent. You ARE someone’s type. We all are.
You know, daddy (not Sugar, but actual) used to tell me, “When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!”
In other words, DON’T GIVE UP.
san diego sb i can’t remember the last time i got an email… seriously. that doesn’t make me no one’s type does it?
*sigh* i think ive tied 3 knots already
still hanging on but loosing alot of faith
Refresh your photos and rewrite your profile. That’s all it takes sometimes! And it isn’t because your photos are bad…new photos will usually get the guys to click through.
Anna Molly, my profile is always hidden … shown only to the select few.
Personally, I don’t mind if an SB keeps hers up, but then I’ve managed to reach a place in sugar dating where possessiveness and jealousy seem absurd. I learned the hard way that each party is going to be true to each other according to your own rules or not, and spying or whining or making demands won’t change someone’s behavior. I would never check to see if an SB has her profile up or not or try to find out when she last logged in. Once we connect, we go off kludgy SA mail anyway and I wouldn’t have any reason to see her profile in the ordinary course. And by that point I have much better pictures in my head than whatever may be on there, and hopefully I will be able to remember her birthday! In my experience though, typically happy SB’s do hide or remove their profiles, of their own choice, whether or not I ask. Hope that helps! 
cleo dont listen to me and my bad vibes today lol. it was a rough day in the sugar world, i know its something everyone gets used to,but the whole vanishing thing is still crazy to me, especially when THEY contact you, try to get to know talk for hours (phone,text, email ) and then vanish,
i know the men on here are busy (well the real ones that actually have something going on) and i get that, but ill let a pot know even after a few days of talking that im not interested anymore,so im not the bitch that vanished lol.
NCGent: I hear you are taking Midwest and Elegant for a whirlwind, week long fishing/golfing trip. I’m not clear as to whether you’re going to the Caribbean or Monterey. Do you think you can handle them both?
sandiego sb – Just checked out your profile, you are so pretty! Don’t worry, I actually PAID to upgrade my profile and have gotten 1 email since the first two “20 emails” days. Sometimes it’s just slow in sugar land
thank you nyc
yea ill probally have to post some new pictures, but not before i get my hair done lol
its a mess right now,in need of new extensions lol
How many James do we have on here??
James.MI: I don’t know if it’s the Caribbean or Monterey. I just know I will be in charge of driving the golf cart, mixing the martinis and baiting the hooks.
cleo: I know what you mean about the tall, awkward nerds. The awkwardness is a part of their undying charm.
ES: driving the golf cart and fixing the martinis IS baiting the hook!
Oh, ha ha ha! NICE.
I set that one up and you KNOCKED it down.
Perfect.
Haven’t done this yet, so I thought I’d answer blog questions
Has the sugar presented you with any tough choices? Care to share?
I had a sugar offer me an extremely high allowance, but I could not stand him in every way – looks, personality (mostly), everything. It was really tough to say no to such a large sum of money, but I had to do it.
If you give could 1 tip to a sugar who is seeking an arrangement with you, what would it be?
The little thing that sweeps me off my feet – when a guy offers and pays for me to get a car home on our first date (I live 30 mins outside of NYC)
How are things going in your sugarlife?
In transition.
flo rida: hey that’s funny, i speak the phonetic alphabet as well. it amazes me how few phone reps are trained in it these days… and i have my radio license (hmm i bet it’s expired… if they expire)
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SF Sweetheart i have been told by other women that i was too pretty to be good at math. i figure that if i can tutor my cousin into passing grade eleven math i probably have some skills up my sleeve *g*
too pretty to be smart
“natural” athlete (or maybe active since i was six weeks old)
intimidatingly self sufficient
funny thing, most of the pretty women i know are very intelligent… but then i select for that in my friends… brains and wit.
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don’t mind me i’m having a bad week
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elegant the best lover i ever had (aka the man who taught me to pray) was one of those. nerds study everything, even sex
You know, a nerd’s idea of romance might be to make up a spiffy web-page with all the reasons why they love you, with links to pics of you and sonnets and such… but hey, it lasts longer than flowers, plus you can show your friends.
“the man who taught me to pray” Ha ha! I am totally using that.
I haven’t had he chance to read up the list, but what’s the answer to the question How long does it take for a sugar relationship to secure itself? I’m having terrible luck with my contacts and general correspondence. I haven’t proposed any meetings but the tingling feeling hasn’t showed up either.
Sincere: i find that interesting that your sb doesn’t kiss you passionately except as a reward or as afterglow. because elegant sugar is right about the power in a kiss…
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miss sugar you are welcome to it but i say it in all sincerity. imagine my surprise to hear myself calling out to god when i am more in tune with energy and karma than ‘god’
Ok, Sugars. Finally stepping out of my office and calling it a night! I have a date tomorrow night (IRL). Something I swore I wasn’t going to do, but apparently gave my number to a guy at a party last weekend. I vaguely remember the details as it was a little late and although I wasn’t drinking heavily, I did have a couple of Patron Xo Caffe shots so I was feeling quite good. I remember he is here from Britain working for a few months. He was tall and definitely nerdy. His fashion sense was that fitted look (also known as “unconscious style”) that European men sport; the hem of his pants much shorter than what is acceptable in the U.S. He was drinking Corona with lime and he laughed nervously at everything I said. It will be my first non-SD date in about a year.
Good night.
Evening Sugar’s,
I’m leaving this for a while. If I want to get treated badly I might as well be back in the real dating world. Which is way I’m not, because I’m tired of getting treated badly. I just need to take a step back. It’s funny, as I started re-writing my profile, I felt as though I’m describing a puppy I’m trying to sale. “Sweet, polite, respectful…”
I need a break. good night
im off to.
goodnight sugars thanks for all the help today, you actually brightened up my night,because i was kind of down.
night dolls
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SanDiego SB~ you are beautiful… I just looked at your profile wow…
elegant/flo: one of the things that i love about this place is that there are a pile of women here who are smart and accomplished and have many talents…
i have taken survival courses myself miss flo and i think you could handle anything
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Nomadic Constant: can i apply for that job? i know how to coil cable and don’t get seasick… and i am my most graceful in salt water…
JamesNY perhaps that’s why i like your perspective so much; experience. it’s a little bit how i like to think of myself… i have all of the realism but i just keep looking for the positive.
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SanDiegoSB they’re just rude and think money makes them more important than anyone else.
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JamesMI i am envious of that fishing trip. i freaking love fishing… except the murdering fish part so i usually do catch and release. that said, if you want to murder my fish for me? we’ll totally have it for dinner and i’ll even cook it if you like.
Good Night Sugars…
Being a Strong Independent self reliant woman is EXAUSTING.
I may change it up and be a dumb blonde for a day! ~OC
Cleo -still without computer. Hopefully you didn’t take my comments the wrong way about your pictures. I think any man seeking a wife would pick YOUR PROFILE, in a heartbeat, because of the brains and beauty combo. But pot SDs are scanning through with a different mindset. You have the beauty and physique required, for sure, but your photos don’t help you attract a great SD, …or that’s my only explanation as to why they haven’t snatched you up. Maybe all a bit more playful and enticing, like your third pic, but less obscured. Showing that dazzling smile, those lips, maybe that long thick hair mid swing, and show off your figure! Get a friend to snap the shutter constantly when you’re looking your sexiest, great lighting, while drinking wine, showing off your poses, and being silly. Then play with the images you like in terms of brightness and color saturation. Start with hundreds, narrow down to twelve, and have others pick three. You’ll make the best SDs weep.
Good morning everyone! I wen’t out last night for the first time in a long time and when I say went out I mean I got tipsy and went dancing…LOL. I only drank a few beers, but then again I don’t drink that much so it doesn’t take a whole lot to get me tipsy.
Not hungover, but not feeling that great either. Hope I’m not getting that stomach flu that’s going around…ugh.
Just a quick post today, then several meetings and proposals due today….
hmmmm fishing trip — I am in, but you SBs have to bait your own hooks. I will be in Monterey for a week near the end of May. I am up for a Florida fishing trip perhaps?? I have fishing trips also planned this year in Newport and OBX, but I am going with friends who know nothing about my sugar world. You are welcome to come along too James, as well as any other SDs. p.s. I have done a lot of walleye and perch fishing — I grew up in the midwest but now I am a southern boy!
Morning NC! I like to fish, but couldn’t go with you because you wouldn’t bait my hook. I don’t understand it, I can clean up a trauma scene and handle it just fine, but baiting a hook makes me gag every time….LOL. Go figure
Good morning everyone!!!!! sigh, now time to catch up on what I’ve missed.
Hi DC – I am lurking – thought of you when I watched Millionaire Dating this week — man that woman was crazy huh?
OC – sticky booger is green… so are witches… and we all know what that rhymes with
Elegant – an Hermez Birkin bag right now is worth how much? Upwards of 5 grand… some fetch 20k or more… if someone gave me a bag worth 5k its going straight to ebay… then im taking those money and investing them… I have a higher rate of return than Hermez …
Nomadic – my bad
Elegant and Sincere sitting in a tree K I S S I N G
NYC22 – YAY on all the pots and of course on the knock out dress… nothing like a lil retail therapy… Also Number 2 might have the money… but to me it sounds like he is super cheap… almost as bad as my SD date who whined about a $37 dinner
JamesNY & NYC22 – are you up for a little blog meeting in NYC on Feb 12th? If you are click on my link and my email is on the site it leads you to… No I will not spam you
NC – Millionaire Matchmaker is such a fun show bc of all the wackos on there
NC Gent – all I saw were reruns when I flipped it on
I am ready for all these damn previews they keep showing, of the 50 year old mama millionaire who can barely move her face and flips out etc.
I can only watch the haul junk and many jewish men looking for a jewish girl but always settling for a non-jewish girl blonde episodes so long.
NC Gent maybe you should be on there
NC ~ I guess I’m not worthy of a hello….humph! LOL
Hi DC and NYC SB
NYC – sounds like we’re going to have a HUGE meet up! Yay! Can’t wait =)
Morning AM! How are you this morn?
We are about to get a BIG SNOWSTORM Y’ALL! Sigh.
Hi Anna
DC — you missed the 50 yo mama millionaire (who actually says he is 40). She was on Tuesday night at 10 pm (new show) but they have tons of repeats so you will see it again — probably the most bizzare behavior ever on that show!
Don’t think my wife would appreciate me being on that show
Hermes and Burberry are my favorites
NC NOOOOOOOOOOoooo. You’ve just crushed my whole lifetime forever! I missed it. Ugh, what in the world was I doing?!?! Why didn’t you send a smoke signal, some’thun?! A messenger bird?
Anyway.. well, you’re probably right. We’d have to create a fake identity for you, complete with wig, mustache, contacts and a fake accent – you can choose between Boston & MinneSOOOtah/Fargo. Oo la la, I say go with Minnesota, love that “ohh geezee” accent. swoon!
Cleo — I wasn’t invited to the fishing trip, just told about it. So, we’ll have to have out own fishing trip! So there! I’m catch and release, too, after I have enough for shore lunch. My first striped marlin is on a wall, but not the fish. There’s a company in CA that makes a reduced size replica from photos. Besides, who has 11′ of wall space for a fish?
I struggle enough with finding spots for the moose and 2 Cape Buffalo, who stick out 3′ from the wall, and hurt like h**l if you forget to duck…
AM – I’m struggling this morning. I thought you said Hermes and Blueberries were your favorite. That had me stumped for a while
Good morning
I used to like fishing when I was a kid till I found out the fish don’t die instantly so no more of that for me. I will stick to getting my fish at the grocery after the deed is already done.
Half of my family is from MN (the White half of me) and live on one of the 10 billion lakes, so everytime we’d go fishing I’d secretly let the fish back into the lake..
So, I stopped getting invited to go fishing.
Lisa,
I’m pretty sure Man didn’t fight, and struggle and claw his way to the top of the food chain in order to eat vegetables. There is a lot of truth to the biological imperative — just look at SA. Here are men, looking for women (sometimes several), and women trying to find mates capable of supporting them and their offspring!
“You are welcome to come along too James” James — I lifted this text from above — not sure how you interpret that to mean “not invited”
I know i’m a hypocrit as I love meat and dairy products but am disturbed by the way animals are treated but again i’m one of those that as long as I don’t have to see it, i’m ok.
James.MI ~ LOL….I don’t even like blueberries unless they come in poptart form.
Glad to see you are feeling better! We missed you darlin’!
I just sent out an email to the NYC Feb 12th group… please reply sugars
JamesMI — ah yes sex for meat, the fundamental trade negotiated between homo homo sapiens males and females more than 100,000 years ago — explicated in fascinating detail in Sex, Time and Power by the late Leonard Shlain
NYC SB, thanks for the invite! I won’t be able to make it but hopefully next time
Anna Molly, did you spot Naughty Molly out on the town too?