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Types of Newbie Sugar Babies, by ‘SincereSD’
  • Posted Oct 11, 2010
  • Written by Brandon Wade

We SD have the same problem with newbie SB (sugar babies). After some misadventures with rookie SB, I tend to stay away. At the risk of stereotyping, here are the types of newbie SB I’ve encountered. My apologies if I have offended anyone but these are my experiences.

1. “Investigators” – As the name implies, they are attracted by the media or exploring an alternative means to supplement their income. I’m spent some time educating pot SB in this group only to have them back out … despite having great chemistry. The main reason for cold feet was internal conflict … they could not accept money for intimacy because of the association with prostitution. I didn’t realize how traumatic this was until I had a SB break out in tears after we were intimate. We saw each other several more times but she tried to return her allowance … naturally I refused (later, she told me donated the money to charity).

2. “Arm Candy” – No pretense here … these women know what they are looking for. By in large, they are stunning young women, usually model-types, who are high maintenance and are only in it for the money. They are similar to what is referred to what is known as HDH (high dollar hotties) and command premium allowances.

3. “i deserve to be spoiled” – Don’t have much experience with this group but I usually pass when I spot this tendency. In my conversations, I’ve found expectations to be unrealistic and their personna to be very self-focused. This is typically the group which is looking for the stereotypical Edward Lewis Hollywood-types or the platonic relationships.

4. “Drama queens” – I am the magnet for this group. Being a “white knight” type of SD, I tend to be overly sympathetic and get involved in this group trying to help them fix their problems whether it be credit, substance abuse, self-esteem, eviction, etc. Now when I detect drama, I immediately hit the eject button.

5. “The jaded” – Another self-explanitory group. These pot SB are discouraged by the lack of success in their search having encounter endless fake SD or having unpleasant experiences. Their negative attitudes are sure to turn off any real SD.

6. “Diamonds in the rough” – With the above in mind, I have found gems amongst new SB. It takes a lot of work to find the diamonds though.

As a SD, the odds are overwhelming in our favor and we can afford to be more selective. While I’m not opposed to new SB, I typically wait until they have been on the site for at least 2 months as I prefer they are well researched and have a fair idea of the SD landscape and how to behave in a SB relationship.

- SincereSD


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21 Responses to “Types of Newbie Sugar Babies, by ‘SincereSD’”

  1. Shannon says:

    Great post.

  2. Kimber says:

    I like this article. I am very curious as too what category my profile says to pot sd.

  3. T says:

    lol I’m with Kimber on that one :p
    being a ‘newbie’ i dont even know how to begin lol.

  4. New SD says:

    I’m new to being an SD (about two weeks) but when I first met my SB it felt perfect! She has a perfect, gorgeous smile and when I’m with her I forget about the stress at work. She’s always eager to rub my shoulders, ask about my day, or surprise me with her own personal opinions about life. In a way, we sugar daddy men live vicariously through our SBs so seeing you smile and enjoy life adds to our own quality. I’ll never forget texting her that I loved her smile and getting back a half dozen pictures back on my phone of her gorgeous lips smiling just for me!

  5. DianaSBinOC says:

    I was just reading this post and I’m trying to figure out what type of newbie sb is left to deal with? So the “investigator” was curious but didn’t want to take money for intimacy which to me sounds exactly like Play 4 Pay in other words she didn’t want to take money for sex. Now I thought the purpose of a sugar baby wasn’t to accept money for sex. Now I understand the second “arm candy” are there to look good which makes the daddy look good too. I can understand that these types are not interested in sleeping with you either and obviously command a high dollar allowance.Which if an SD is looking to have sex with his arm candy this wouldn’t work either. Now we get to number 3 “i deserve to be spoiled”. Now many women love to be spoiled and hopefully come to the sugar bowl looking for this. I didn’t realize wanting to be spoiled was such a bad thing. I almost feel like self esteem is almost frowned upon on here as if your SD shouldn’t make you feel wonderful and appreciated. So number 4″ Drama Queens”. Hmm well if someone is going through alot with school, bills, children etc , then I can see there being drama. Substance abuse, and self esteem issues shouldn’t be a sugar daddy’s problem unless he is partaking in either one. Now if the sb has credit problems or facing eviction, I would think if she’s getting a decent allowance from her sugar daddy, these issues should be the case , or maybe she needs to add another sd to the bowl. Moving on to number 5 “The Jaded”. After reading this list many new sb’s could consider you a jaded SD. You’ve been there done that and now you may offer play 4 pay when in the beginning you were more of an allowance SD. I think it would be harder to distinguish you being a legitimate SD from the “Johns” on the same site. ” Diamonds in the rough”. Generally with new sbs that haven’t had a real sd, she may be eager to get her feet wet and trust the first man that sounds real. Reading the blog has clearly shown that many sbs have been taken for quite an ugly ride.
    I would agree that the odds are in the favor of most SD’s which is why many men sign up. After reading this I’m still trying to figure out what is expected?

    Reading this list makes me think that she can’t ask too many questions, she’s not looking to be spoiled, has to put out right away and be comfortable to do it whenever he asks and per the amount he wants. She’s also not to communicate any problems in her life outside of the sugar bowl because he’s not interested and she can’t talk about any bad experiences in the sugar bowl. I understand that SD’s don’t want pros either because for $300-$500 a meet they can talk , sex,dinner etc etc and have full on 6-24 hr day. Where a pro would give them 1 hour for that amount of money.

    I’m not offended by this post I’m just trying to figure out what’s left to this woman? Also what distinguishes an SD with these desires from a John looking for a prostitute?

    Perhaps you can put up a following blog post about your ideal arrangements, what amount you offer per month, how many times you meet with them , the lengths of your visits, their ages, your age, married or single and overall why they are a great fit for you.

    I think when it comes to newbies we all would like to meet someone, kind, attractive, healthy and respectful. Let’s not forget generous. We’re also not looking to be treated like girlfriends at escort rates either. I feel the balance is difficult and most men lean either to one side or the other.

    What I mean about one side or the other : Escort—SugarBaby—Girlfriend/Wife

    Actually after reviewing this. I finally understand. It’s funny that all you have to do is look at all of the items presented and eventually they will fall in line.

    Thank you Sincere SD! I totally get it now! I’m in the sugar world with new eyes!

  6. DianaSBinOC says:

    excuse the typos

  7. Gorgeous Inside &Out says:

    I’m a newbie….about 3weeks now. I think all women are/should be a combination of all types.

    The Investigator- of course we are attracted to explore this new adventure. We wouldn’t be here otherwise. I can relate to the personal struggle some women go thru. SD & SB relationships strattle a fine line…the obvious..paying for companionship. In our defence…our society shuns prostitutes. It is by far the most uncomfortable part of this whole thing.

    Arm Candy- this depends more on the relationship rather than the woman. Married men want to keep you a secret..so it doesn’t apply. What dingle man wouldnt want to flaunt around a gorgeous woman. This boundary should be discussed early on, with a clear idea of what both parties want/open to giving.

    I Desire To Be Spoiled – Uumm yea…thats what we singed up for. 9 times outta 10 SD’s have somewhere in their profile something about spoiling a woman. Put up, or shut up.

    Drama Queen – All that glitters is mot gold…we are real people with real life issues. Chances are, were good looking women who generally don’t have a hard time finding male companionship. We are here for the financial perks…or to find true love..lol. Don’t get me wrong, no one enjoys Debbie Downer. So new SB’s…leave your baggage at home. Let the time you spend with your SD be your escape!

    Jaded- bad experiences happen to everyone. New SB’s shouldn’t be jaded, but cautious. There are real creepers and scamers out there.

    Diamond In The Rough- my personal favorite. You have to start somewhere. Outside of these blogs, we learn from personal experience. Its not easy being the Newbie. We have all these men..coming from everywhere…telling you all the things they want. While trying to decipher through their b.s…and come to terns of what exactly we want and (more importantly/difficult ) what we are COMFORTABLE with. Honesty is the best policy. There’s a clear understanding amongst both parties …everyone’s happy! Ima

  8. Gorgeous Inside &Out says:

    I’m a newbie….about 3weeks now. I think all women are/should be a combination of all types.

    The Investigator- of course we are attracted to explore this new adventure. We wouldn’t be here otherwise. I can relate to the personal struggle some women go thru. SD & SB relationships strattle a fine line…the obvious..paying for companionship. In our defence…our society shuns prostitutes. It is by far the most uncomfortable part of this whole thing.

    Arm Candy- this depends more on the relationship rather than the woman. Married men want to keep you a secret..so it doesn’t apply. What dingle man wouldnt want to flaunt around a gorgeous woman. This boundary should be discussed early on, with a clear idea of what both parties want/open to giving.

    I Desire To Be Spoiled – Uumm yea…thats what we singed up for. 9 times outta 10town SD’s have somewhere in their profile something about spoiling a woman. Put up, or shut up.

    Drama Queen – All that glitters is mot gold…we are real people with real life issues. Chances are, were good looking women who generally don’t have a hard time finding male companionship. We are here for the financial perks…or to find true love..lol. Don’t get me wrong, no one enjoys Debbie Downer. So new SB’s…leave your baggage at home. Let the time you spend with your SD be your escape!

    Jaded- bad experiences happen to everyone. New SB’s shouldn’t be jaded, but cautious. There are real creepers and scamers out there.

    Diamond In The Rough- my personal favorite. You have to start somewhere. Outside of these blogs, we learn from personal experience. Its not easy being the Newbie. We have all these men..coming from everywhere…telling you all the things they want. While trying to decipher through their b.s…and come to terns of what exactly we want and (more importantly/difficult ) what we are COMFORTABLE with. Honesty is the best policy. There’s a clear understanding amongst both parties …everyone’s happy!

  9. Silvia says:

    Thank you Diana SB,

    That one, I must cosign!

  10. Wildatheart says:

    Anyone, How do you determine the amount with a new SD. Does he give you the whole amt once a month or at every meeting? if its once a week thing that how does that work ? Only in the beginning?

  11. DianaSBinOC says:

    Wow I’m up early!! Good Morning Babies and Daddies.

    @Wildatheart~ Actually the SD is supposed to give you your full allowance. If he’s trying to give it to you in pieces for example ” per meet” then he’s trying to pay you off like an escort but trying to take your time like a regular bf. Remember escorts charge between $300-$800 per hour and they kick the guy out once the clock hits on the dot. If he’s a real SD he would not try to drop a few hundred dollars your way then push for sex. Remember he’s a Sugar Daddy not a Budget Daddy or a “John”. So do not accept Pay 4 Play dates. If a daddy wants that then you mine as well be a hooker. At least hookers get top dollar and spend less time.

    Just imagine how much a hooker/escort can get off of 10 meets with 10 different guys. Sounds kinda gross but $800 an hour for 10 hours? hmm sounds like $8,000. Instead of 10 hours of spending all your time with one guy that will fight to give you $500? So again make sure the SD knows he’s an SD and to treat you like the true SB you really are.

    Remember there are many men on this site that have been dealing with hookers/escorts especially when they all approach you with the same weird $300-$600 rates. They just find this site as a goldmine where young women will accept much less and give them all the time in the world.

  12. diva14555 says:

    i agree not a hooker just want to be treated for all the 22 years i treated a man my turn

  13. Wildatheart says:

    Thank you Diana. I met a SD who said that he had bad experiences before and loaned some girl money after meeting two times and she disappeared. He tells me that he would want to give me ‘sugar’ only after we become intimate. I felt that was weird. Then he asked me if I was available that night? wtf? Where are the gentlemen?

  14. MissLunah says:

    Last night I got an e-mail from an elderly gentelman who straight from the start told me that he is looking for a long term relationship and that the whole “arrangement” idea is a simply a “polite prostitution”. From the very start I knew it would not work, because I had a weird vide about him, however I figured that it will not hurt to exchange a few e-mails and see what what he was all about… didn’t take for me long to realize he was the same “type” as Wildatheart described. Also, is there a blog about what types of SD there are ?:)

  15. Wildatheart says:

    Thanks MissLunah! You know what I’m talking about. He was trying to bargain with me because hes been screwed before. Its not my fault if SDs have had bad experiences in the past and someone took advantage of them. It doesnt make it right for them to treat all SBs like that. Maybe some SDs need to be clear about what this really means to have an ‘arrangement’. I was very honest with this one from the beginning but it turned out that he wanted to take advantage of my honesty. Arrgghh

  16. SugarMac says:

    Dear Diana–We are all unique with our own needs -aren’t we ? Exactly how we mix these various needs is up to each couple

    IMHO there are two inviolate aspects of a SD/SB relationship : 1)intimacy and 2) allowance. Call it what you will most SD’s are interested in a sexual relationship with an ideal girl for us ,and most SB’s here are here for financial benefit . The beauty of individuality is that we can find the right person to fit our needs

    NSA ? I REALLY love the emotional connection with my Baby . I am SO lucky to have a wonderful SB who acts like she adores me and treats me like $ million even though we are decades apart in age. I treat her to a reasonably high allowance paid at each visit -which works well for us . In the long run I pay a lot more this way because I can’t get enough of her. If I paid by the month either she would limit the number of visits if she is all about the money or she would get less/month,making both of us less happy .
    Pay by the visit –is good because it’s easier to budget outlays of significant funds weekly rather than monthly for us married SD’s. Also each partner feels rewarded -SB gets paid for her time, SD gets to see her as often as she wants to be paid. I had a previous SB I paid for a month and never saw her again .
    1ST Date- My college girl SB and I made a plan by email and then a phone call over a week period of time . We agreed on the type of date (all night -we met at a hotel ) and the Sugar Donation . We fell into each other’s arms , made passionate love , and I had to pry her out of my arms in the AM to go to work -reluctantly . We have been seeing and loving each other since then regularly . I would never consider paying someone to come visit with me at a bar or restaurant to “get to know me ” . As a Gentleman I would definitely pay for the dinner and drinks ,but sugar would not change hands until we agreed on a deal satisfying both of our needs . I don’t think I am unique in this ,but going back to item #1 I want to know that we are going to be intimate . I think you SB’s need to resolve the conflict about pay to play and prostitution . Naming Sugar activities does no one any good .

  17. MissLunah says:

    SugarMac… emotional connection is crucial… because if there is no connection sex is just plain old sex… and everything else is just stiff and artificial…and that you can get at a local bar… I think the easiest way for a new SB to distinguish pay to play from prostitution is that the SB should always feel empowered. She should be the one that chooses the person and feels right with and she should always feel that she can back out. Financial assistance is one thing, and appearance is something that one could compromise upon.. but attraction is something that has to be there no matter if it is a purely sexual arrangement or SD/SB companionship arrangement.

    (I might be a little confusing at times as English is not my primary language, so I apologize before hand.)

  18. Nicole Needs Advice says:

    H! I was hoping to post this question on one of the relevant blogs, but they’re not accepting comments… I’m looking for advice on my particular situation. Basically, I’ve seen this SD 3 times (and planning to hang out tomorrow) and our connection is amazing! We hit it off right away and I love spending time with him. The only thing is that we haven’t set up “arrangement” terms. He gave me money for gas the first time I saw him and he said he would give me more next time. The next time I had to slip out at 4am for work, so I thought maybe he didn’t think of it. The last time, he gave me $100, which was a lot better but… not what I expected. I feel awkward bringing $$ up because we have a great connection and I don’t want to offend him. I tried to indirectly bring it up by asking him about his past arrangements, but he didn’t discuss the financial terms. My question is: is he waiting until he knows I’m worth it? Or is he trying to get out of the whole arrangement part of it? I’m not trying to be greedy but I wanted one, long term SD that spoiled me a little more than $100 every now and then when I’m going to see him weekly. I know he has the money; I’ve been to his condo on the beach and his other gorgeous/huge house. I want things to work out, but not sure what to do without sounding completely shallow. Any advice would be appreciated!!

  19. LoveMySugarLife says:

    @Nicole Needs Advice – Communicate. Communicate. Communicate. Based on what you’ve shared, you obviously didn’t choose the arrangement path to just find a nice guy (boyfriend) who helps with gas every now and then. You need to tell him how you feel and share your intentions on why you are choosing to seek an arrangement. Otherwise, you would have opted for a site like match dot com or Millionaire Match, right? (A bit of advice: don’t use the word spoil when you have the convo with him. Most SDs do not like hearing that word. If they use it, OK. But they would prefer the SB not say it.) The amount he has offered does not necessarily mean he is not a true SD, but perhaps not the type you were hoping to find. It sounds like you two have a great connection so that should make it somewhat more comfortable for you to bring up your concerns openly. Good luck to you!

  20. jennie says:

    Dear SD’s,
    The proscess gets alittle annoying for the sb’s too. I am an expirenced sb. I also reply promptly to all of my emails and take the time to speek with just about every perspiring sd over the phone. What im seeing is alot of guys that are paying former sb’s to do the search for them. About twice per day I recive a call from some guy who has never seen my profile. After talking to him for a few minuites he confesses that he has never seen me in my life. His previous sb has just handed him a phone number and he has made a phone call. Will you people stop paying your former sb’s who claim to have bs radiar to find you a new sb? It’s kind of annoying. Do your own dirty work. This chick is ripping you off.
    Thanks,
    Jennie

  21. SD Guru says:

    @Nicole & jennie – I’d suggest that you post in the current blog topic where it’s more active and you’ll get more response.

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